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Bill Clinton: US must spend its way out of crisis
2008-12-06
Former President Bill Clinton said Friday the U.S. government has no choice but to spend its way out of its worst economic crisis in decades.
But of course! We got into it by not spending, so... Hey. Waidadaminnit.
With the U.S. economy in a recession, Clinton said President-elect Barack Obama must also shore up plummeting property values. "The big risk now for America and the world is deflation, contraction, dropping asset prices. We have to stimulate the economy which means in the short run, he has to take America into even more debt. There is no alternative," Clinton said at a lecture organized by the Sekhar Foundation, a philanthropic group that aims to foster an understanding of different cultures.
"And then when we're out of it, we're gonna have to continue spending like sailors! Otherwise we'll get back in it!"
Obama "has to put a floor under the asset values and then use the government's spending ability to trigger economic activities," Clinton said. "Then when we resume growth, we should adopt a more conservative and traditional budget policy."

The U.S. has not suffered through a prolonged bout of deflation since the Great Depression of the 1930s. Congress passed a $700 billion bailout fund for financial institutions to combat the economic crisis.

Posted by:Fred

#16  Bright Pebbles and Besoeker---I find this whole govt spending (or rather raiding the treasury) horribly depressing. The Congress has taken its middle finger and held it up right in front of the face of the American taxpayer, and said, "F*ck you. We do not care what you think and you cannot do anything about it."

Besides the enormous financial implications of this is the damage to the institutions of the United States by the contempt and lack of respect they have generated with the public. It is hard or impossible to get back. Just like tax evasion is a national sport in Italy, getting around the government will be a national sport here. Look at illegal immigration. Nice rule of law here. We will become a banana republic in mindset.
Posted by: Alaska Paul   2008-12-06 17:18  

#15  We laugh at Zimbob 10 bil bills. We are following exactly the same path, collectively fools.

Sadly, in more ways than just the economy.
Posted by: Besoeker   2008-12-06 17:10  

#14  It's worse than that.

Government borrowing crowds out private investment borrowing, therefore there are less goods created to use the money!
Posted by: Bright Pebbles   2008-12-06 17:09  

#13  More money chasing the same goods and services means the value of your money drops. Econ 101. We laugh at Zimbob 10 bil bills. We are following exactly the same path, collectively fools.
Posted by: Alaska Paul   2008-12-06 17:07  

#12  Blondie,

I see your point about the supply of virgins.

But when it comes to Clinton, he'd only be working the demand side of the street. Tickle down economics.
Posted by: Lump Grolump 7269   2008-12-06 16:49  

#11  Sir Winston Churchill
"We contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle."

Government Spending is taxation.

Posted by: Bright Pebbles   2008-12-06 16:04  

#10  No offense, Lumpy.....but how do you think new virgins are created?  ;)
Posted by: Cornsilk Blondie   2008-12-06 14:14  

#9  Bill's just the guy to advise us.

No doubt he'd also advocate f*cking your way to virginity.
Posted by: Lumpy Grolump7269   2008-12-06 13:51  

#8  As much as I hate to admit it.  Bill MIGHT be on to something here.  I read an article about the Japan 10+ year recession and the conclusion is that the deficit spending is better in the long run then the alternative.


Can't find the link.
Posted by: Hellfish   2008-12-06 12:46  

#7  What I've been pointing out for a while now is that since WWII, the Democrats have relied on inflationary spending sprees, and the Republicans have relied on economic growth, as the *only* two means to support and balance the post-war "easy credit", leveraged economy.

But this cannot continue, because it created a debt bubble with no mechanism for reduction. This could have possibly lasted for many more years, if it was limited to just the US government.

But the fools allowed it to be used in unregulated and less regulated markets as well. This turned a bad chronic problem into a severe and acute problem, worse by more than a factor over even the US government's problem. Running into the hundreds of trillions of dollars of unsustainable debt.

There is no way of "fixing" things the way they are now, so the only possibility is to segregate the "real" economy from the leveraged economy, and let the leveraged economy completely collapse.

The leveraged economy cannot even be allowed to try and survive, it must be wiped out entirely, because until that happens, there is no possibility of restoring the real economy. If any parts of the leveraged economy survives, it will parasitically draw the liquidity out of the real economy like a malignant tumor, and destroy it as well.

The way to segregate the two economies is with regulated currency control. Virtual money is inextricably tied to the leveraged economy, so the real economy must rely on physical cash.

At the consumer level, there is only the fraction of the cash we need, so there is a severe cash deflation in the near term. However, at the "big money" level, the government will need to issue very high denomination bills that can only be transferred with Treasury Department permission. $100k to $10M bills.

Only real economy corporations will be provided these bills in exchange for their virtual funds, and they will guarantee both that these corporations cannot go bankrupt, and that they retain 100% collateral for any loans they need to operate.

This is a government backed real corporation insurance policy. Any virtual money beyond this limit the corporation earns or uses is up to it. But it cannot spend those bills, and they cannot be taken from them, except by Treasury permission.

The leverage economy corporations will go to any lengths to try and obtain these bills, but even if they take over a real company and loot is virtual liquidity, it cannot take and use these bills for its own purposes. Even if they buy the real company, the government just invalidates the bills, unless that company continues to perform its real economy function.

This real economy insurance will also make the restoration of American heavy industry very stable, as once a new corporation is accepted into the real economy group, its existence is assured far into the future, until eventually the high denomination bills are redeemed for good.
Posted by: Anonymoose   2008-12-06 09:32  

#6  He's like a bad penny, he just keeps turning up. Eight years of this clown and daily denials of a BJ obviously were not nearly enough.
Posted by: Besoeker   2008-12-06 07:37  

#5  Bubba chaneling RBeez resident Mega-Kenesian, the estimable Mike N.

3 mil 50 tech?
Posted by: .5MT   2008-12-06 05:32  

#4  Clinton said at a lecture organized by the Sekhar Foundation

Wonder how much he was paid for giving that lecture?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2008-12-06 03:16  

#3  WRONG FOOL.

It is sink or swim.
Economic correction is very healty in the long term.

We have been "stimulating" a false economy for long enough. Do not fund economic bubbles - this is our lesson.

The more the economy does to route unstable business, the better we will be off in the next 20 years.
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The more debt this government creates for us in their useless petty anty efforts, the longer we will feel the pain.
Posted by: newc   2008-12-06 02:00  

#2  Yeah! Bring back inflation, that'll do the trick!
Posted by: Cornsilk Blondie   2008-12-06 01:04  

#1  It's always worked for Bill. Especially when it's somebody elses money...
Posted by: tu3031   2008-12-06 00:21  

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