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Closing Guantanamo will end 'dark chapter', say rights experts
2008-12-23
(AKI) - A group of independent human rights experts who advise the United Nations have welcomed US President-elect Barack Obama's decision to close the Guantanamo Bay detention centre, stressing it will end "a dark chapter in the country's history."
How do you become a "human rights expert"? I think I've got the human part down, but I'm hazy on the rest of it. Is there some sort of course I could take, like "Recognizing atrocities 101"?
In a statement issued in Geneva on Monday, four experts stated that "the regime applied at Guantanamo Bay neither allowed the guilty to be condemned nor secured that the innocent be released," adding that it also opened the door for serious human rights violations.

Following his election in November, Obama publicly stated his commitment to lead his administration's efforts to close the Guantanamo Bay prison camp and to strengthen the fight against torture. Both of which are part, he said, of his efforts "to regain America's moral stature in the world."

The experts strongly support his commitment which they said, in addition to restoring the moral stature of the US in the world, "will allow a dark chapter in the country's history to be closed and to advance in the protection of human rights."

Among those adding his name to the statement is the Special Rapporteur on the promotion and protection of human rights while countering terrorism, Martin Scheinin, who has warned that the US Government's system of military commissions planned for suspects detained at Guantanamo is unlikely to reach international standards on the right to a fair trial.
Not that anyone knows what those standards are, but give Martin, Louise and Carla a couple decades and they'll come up with something ...
In addition to being illegal, the experts said detention was "ineffective in criminal procedure terms," ...
... since it wasn't about criminal procedure in the first place ...
... adding that similar severe abuses also occur at places of secret detention. "Thus, with the same emphasis, the experts urge that all secret detention places be closed and that persons detained therein be given due process."
Unless they bomb the UN ...
The experts stressed that detainees facing criminal charges must be provided fair trials before courts that afford all essential judicial guarantees.
I'd settle for field hearings conducted under Protocols 1 and 2 of the Geneva Conventions ...
"They emphatically reject any proposals that Guantanamo detainees could through new legislation be subjected to administrative detention, as this would only prolong their arbitrary detention," the statement said.

The experts, who function in an independent and unpaid capacity, report to the Geneva-based UN Human Rights Council.
Posted by:Fred

#10  "to regain America's moral stature in the world."

I hate this expression, it's utter horseshit.
Posted by: NCMike   2008-12-23 16:44  

#9  Ya, Ya, close Gitmo. The dark chapter is closed, bla bla bla. Next stop for them will be the supermax prison. At that place they will be praying to go back to Gitmo! So from my perspective go ahead and close Gitmo, It's all good!
Posted by: 49 Pan   2008-12-23 13:40  

#8  How do you become a "human rights expert"?

A chronic lack of common sense and the will to survive are good for starters.


Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC   2008-12-23 13:25  

#7  So are we going to video tape them being released to swim in shark infested waters?
Some of us want copies.
Posted by: 3dc   2008-12-23 13:05  

#6  How do you become a "human rights expert"?

My observation is that they are University trained elites that are "oh, so much better" than the hoi polloi.

I had a longer rant but my fingers got tired.
Posted by: AlmostAnonymous5839   2008-12-23 12:41  

#5  How do you become a "human rights expert"?

By giving up your humanity.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2008-12-23 02:21  

#4  What about our rights?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2008-12-23 02:21  

#3  Uh - make that "failing to call the bluff of the "world community". Sorry.
Posted by: Verlaine   2008-12-23 02:02  

#2  Bambi's characteristically naive and irresponsible parroting of the "moral stature" canard is the most outrageous of his slanders against his (vast) betters - those being the uniformed and civilian personnel who have been prosecuting the war against the post-WWII world's most dangerous murderers, all of them operating wholly and definitionally outside the rule of law and the law of armed conflict.

It is still stunning to imagine that such an ignorant and inexperienced empty suit will be chief executive of the US. Talk about damaging our stature.

I know most probably regard such verbiage about our allegedly damaged "stature" as throwaway rhetoric, but it's boiled my blood every time I've seen it.

There's no "dark chapter" for the US - but there is for the UN, most of Europe, the ICRC, and everyone else who decided that shredding the Geneva Conventions, as opposed to observing them, was worth it to make life more difficult for the planetary adult (the US).

Holding steady as one of the greatest failures of the current administration - calling the bluff of the "world community" and aggressively countering the slanders and distortions about our appropriate use of unique measures for a unique situation not adequately covered by existing law or procedure. Part of this failure -failing to convene another session of the Geneva Conventions to address the GWOT.
Posted by: Verlaine   2008-12-23 01:59  

#1  Yeah..."independent". That's the ticket!
Posted by: tu3031   2008-12-23 01:17  

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