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India-Pakistan
'Don't underestimate Pak military might'
2008-12-24
India should not underestimate Pakistan's military power and Islamabad is capable of thwarting any aggression from the eastern border, a private TV channel quoted President Asif Ali Zardari as saying on Tuesday.
Oooh! Oooh! Tell 'em the line about one Pak being worth seven Indians!
... ten Indians
He was talking to Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee Chairman General Tariq Majid in Islamabad. "Matters pertaining to the armed forces were discussed in the meeting," an official statement said. According to the channel, General Majeed told the president Pakistan's armed forces were capable of meeting any challenge.

Also on Tuesday, Chief of Army Staff General Ashfaq Kayani met Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani and briefed him on defence preparations of the armed forces amid rising tension between Pakistan and India. Sources privy to the meeting said he told Gilani the armed forces were on high alert and could respond to any aggression immediately. The prime minister was satisfied with the preparations, they said, and assured the army chief the political leadership would stand by the army in defending the country.

Gilani said Pakistan wanted good ties with India and peace in the region, but would not compromise on its sovereignty.
Posted by:Fred

#10  Another picture from 1971 showing the heroic Pak army in action...


Posted by: john frum   2008-12-24 16:56  

#9  Large third world armies (like Saddam era Iraq) have great difficulty with multi Corps (or sometimes Divisional) exercises. They are big but unwieldy, typically full of conscripts.

The India and Pakistan armies actually predate their respective nation states and were officered by men with experience fighting the Germans and Japanese. The Indian army has always been an all volunteer force. Its ability to field and coordinate an enormous number of troops is certainly not amateurish



from nightwatch

Comment: When NightWatch first began studying Indian civil and military war preparations in 1971, the Indian Army required 8 months to mobilize men from the civilian sector; recall reserves; move logistics; generate, train and prepare the forces; bring them to full combat readiness and move 750,000 soldiers in 25 to 28 divisions with about 2,000 tanks to attack positions in western India,

In late 1986, during Operation Brass Tacks, India shortened that preparation process, but it was still considerable. By the time of the Kargil War in early 1999, the Army reduced the time to attain full combat readiness in battle positions to 45 days.

By the January 2002 crisis, the Indian Army had reduced the time to one month, with 750,000 men and some 4,000 tanks in battle positions and capable of attacking after three weeks of preparations. Full combat readiness was reached in the fourth week. In June 2002, the Army also showed it can maintain that large force in the field at a high state of readiness for up to six months, summer or winter. No other Army has achieved those results for a force that size.
Posted by: john frum   2008-12-24 13:37  

#8  Without nukes a fight between India and Pakistan would be two third world nations fighting. In that case INdia has more troops so they would win but the whole thing would be amatuerish, ugly, and bloody.

I could be wrong about India, I'm judging them on the Mubai response which was mostly cops. Hopefully their military is better.

If I were India I'd become really close friends with Israel. Learn as much as possible from them when it comes to training and combat and such and in exchange try to get Indian workers into Israel to replace many of the Palestinians currently there.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2008-12-24 11:08  

#7  LOL
Posted by: Hellfish   2008-12-24 08:40  

#6  Holy leaping, frothing Chihuahuas. Get them off of US!
Posted by: Besoeker   2008-12-24 08:07  

#5  BAH!
Take India... give deh casualties... jeebus...
Posted by: .5MT   2008-12-24 08:01  

#4  But they'll be playing at home and the Ummah gonna rally to dem. Yep. Srsly.

Meh

Take India and the Casualties
Posted by: .5MT   2008-12-24 07:59  

#3  at least the Lions get the first draft pick. The Paks get....more Paks
Posted by: Frank G   2008-12-24 07:57  

#2  Wanting to be more holy than Ayrabs means sucking up to all that's wholely hubris unleashed.
Posted by: Duh!   2008-12-24 04:11  

#1  Pak military might? The Pak military might what? Become the Detroit Lions of Islam? The series stands at 0-3 if I'm not mistaken.
Posted by: SteveS   2008-12-24 00:39  

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