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Home Front Economy
California Dreaming turns into a nightmare
2009-01-13
LOS ANGELES -- Mike Reilly spent his lifetime chasing the California dream. This year he's going to look for it in Colorado. With a house purchase near Denver in the works, the 38-year-old engineering contractor plans to move his family 1,200 miles away from his home state's lemon groves, sunshine and beaches. For him, years of rising taxes, dead-end schools, unchecked illegal immigration and clogged traffic have robbed the Golden State of its allure.

Is there something left of the California dream?

"If you are a Hollywood actor," Reilly says, "but not for us."

Since the days of the Gold Rush, California has represented the Promised Land, an image celebrated in the songs of the Beach Boys and embodied by Silicon Valley's instant millionaires and the young men and women who achieve stardom in Hollywood.

But for many California families last year, tomorrow started somewhere else. The number of people leaving California for another state outstripped the number moving in from another state during the year ending on July 1, 2008. California lost a net total of 144,000 people during that period -- more than any other state, according to census estimates. That is about equal to the population of Syracuse, N.Y.

The state with the next-highest net loss through migration between states was New York, which lost just over 126,000 residents.

California's loss is extremely small in a state of 38 million. And, in fact, the state's population continues to increase overall because of births and immigration, legal and illegal. But it is the fourth consecutive year that more residents decamped from California for other states than arrived here from within the U.S.

A losing streak that long hasn't happened in California since the recession of the early 1990s, when departures outstripped arrivals from other states by 362,000 in 1994 alone.

In part because of the boom in population in other Western states, California could lose a congressional seat for the first time in its history.

Why are so many looking for an exit?

Among other things: California's unemployment rate hit 8.4 percent in November, the third-highest in the nation, and it is expected to get worse. A record 236,000 foreclosures are projected for 2008, more than the prior nine years combined, according to research firm MDA DataQuick. Personal income was about flat last year.

With state government facing a $41.6 billion budget hole over 18 months, residents are bracing for higher taxes, cuts in education and postponed tax rebates. A multibillion-dollar plan to remake downtown Los Angeles has stalled, and office vacancy rates there and in San Diego and San Jose surpass the 10.2 percent national average.

Median housing prices have nose-dived one-third from a 2006 peak, but many homes are still out of reach for middle-class families. Some small towns are on the brink of bankruptcy. Normally recession-proof Hollywood has been hit by layoffs.

"You see wages go down and the cost of living go up," Reilly says. His property taxes will be $1,300 in Colorado, down from $4,300 on his three-bedroom house in Nipomo, about 80 miles up the coast from Santa Barbara.

California's obituary has been written before -- "California: The Endangered Dream" was the title of a 1991 Time magazine cover story. The Golden State and its huge economy -- by itself, the eighth-largest in the world -- have shown resilience, weathering the aerospace bust, the dot-com crash and an energy crunch in recent years.

But this time, the news just keeps getting worse.

A state board halted lending for about 2,000 public works projects in California worth more than $16 billion because the state could not afford them. A report by Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-Calif., last month said the state lost 100,000 jobs in the last year and the erosion of home prices eliminated over $1 trillion in wealth.

"I don't think the California dream, per se, is over. It has become and will continue to become grittier," says New America Foundation senior fellow Gregory Rodriguez. "Now, perhaps, we have to reassess the California of our imagination."

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger is among those who say the state needs to create itself anew, rebuilding roads, schools and transit.

"We've lived off the investments our parents made in the '50s and '60s for a long time," says Tim Hodson, director of the Center for California Studies at California State University, Sacramento. "We're somewhat in the position of a Rust Belt state in the 1970s."

Financial adviser Barry Hartz lived in California for 60 years and once ran for state Assembly before relocating with his wife last year to Colorado Springs, Colo., where his son's family had moved.

"The saddest thing I saw was the escalation of home prices to the point our kids, when they got married, could not live in the community where they lived and grew up," Hartz says. "Some people call that progress."
Posted by:GolfBravoUSMC

#22  there is a reason we called the people moving into Colorado Californicaters.. they soiled the nest back there till the point it wasn't livable, so they moved to the peoples republic of boulder and tried it again... they wont quit till they F-up the whole place the they move on and do it some more.

only problem they ever see with socialism is that it needs to be tried yet one more time... maybe wit even more government control and nanyism
Posted by: Abu do you love   2009-01-13 23:48  

#21  Hardly anyone in California past the age of 30 was actually born here

3rd generation, born in Oakland (it used to be a nice town). My kids were born in San Luis Obispo, but that may be the last of us. The invasion so many whine about has been our lives. Don't like "Cali"? (Shit, I hate that...) Stop moving here.
Posted by: Gabby C.   2009-01-13 23:46  

#20  Ima fifth and last generation Californian. Ima jost goin back to visit me Mum and also Frank G. for barbeeque.
Posted by: Alaska Paul in Haines, AK   2009-01-13 23:26  

#19  Joe, at some point that spells WAR (Wipe All (debt) Remittances).
Posted by: Spike Uniter   2009-01-13 23:10  

#18  Again, WORLD MIL FORUM {old] > US GDP is approxi US$14.0Trilyuhn, but the US also owes up to US$160.0Trilyuhn in [gross] international debts - EVEN IFF THE USGovt PAID OUT US#700.0BILYUHN A YEAR EVERY YEAR IN BAILOUT, IT WOULD TAKE ROUGHLY 180-200 YEARS FOR THE US TO PAYOFF ITS PRESENT DEBTS vv US GDP.

Thus the supports of several major world States for the USGovt = USTreasury Dept. TO DEV AND BEGIN USING "100-YEAR TREASURY BONDS", as oppos to its normal maxim 30-year plus Bonds???
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2009-01-13 22:41  

#17  born and raised - native san diegan - '59
Posted by: Frank G   2009-01-13 21:18  

#16  Oh, I ran two thoughts together. I know of 2 people in a building of 400 that voted for the big O. And one of them is a graphic designer, so that's a given. I'd say a large percentage of the NY transplants are liberal leaning, but we do get a fair amount of people from the western part of NY and they tend to be right decent folk. And we have a HUGE illegal alien problem.
Posted by: AllahHateME   2009-01-13 20:39  

#15  I live in NC, used to be you could count on NC to go red (well except governor). But now we've got so many damn New Yorkers it's crazy. I work in NASCAR and almost everyone I work with is from up north somewhere. Makes me sad
Posted by: AllahHateME   2009-01-13 20:37  

#14  I wonder if the exodus is actually white-flight. Many state hispanics are aggressively unilingual. Others agitate for unity with Mexico. Reminder: Peru, Ecuador, Bolivia and Chile all maintain minefields around border areas. Good idea.
Posted by: Harry Shising5856   2009-01-13 19:11  

#13  I think comparing Californians to New Yorkers is a bit harsh....to the New Yorkers.

Maybe. But scratch a Californian and you're likely to find that he's really a New Yorker. Hardly anyone in California past the age of 30 was actually born here.
Posted by: Abu Uluque   2009-01-13 18:13  

#12  Same thing going on in the NE there's just fewer people. NH is befouled by all the MA losers that cross the border.

The problem in all the places are the same. These bozoids don't understand the connection between their politics and the cess pool they create.
Posted by: AlanC   2009-01-13 14:44  

#11  I think comparing Californians to New Yorkers is a bit harsh....to the New Yorkers.

In AZ, all of the former Noo Yawkers just whined and bitched that there weren't any good Eyetalian joints, that it was too hot, blah blah blah, but they didn't try to futz with the laws and regs like the Californicators did.
Posted by: Cornsilk Blondie   2009-01-13 14:39  

#10  Good luck, DV. I'm afraid you're gonna need it. Last time I drove from Denver to Colorado Springs it reminded me an awful lot of the Interstate 5 corridor through Orange County...that's just north of San Diego and it's not probably not what you want. Like I said, stop it if you can.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305   2009-01-13 14:13  

#9  Jack, I have to respectfully disagree with you. When I lived in Georgia in the sixties besides AZ Barry Goldwater only carried the deep south states of SC, GA, AL, MS and LA. Many voted D because they had never recovered from the Civil War treatment dished out by the Carpetbagger Trunks.

Reagan showed them there was life after the Dem party.

Now the south is not as Red. Some states like North Carolina are turning pink and others like Florida and Virginia are Baby Blue.

The nest foulers are arriving in droves.


Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC   2009-01-13 13:34  

#8  This is how the south became red.
Posted by: Jack is Back   2009-01-13 13:06  

#7  Please leave your politics in California.

Trouble is, they don't. They move from the nest they fouled into new nests. Once they get settled they have a look around and decide that the new place just isn't like home.

So, they began to crap in the new nest by agitating and then voting for all the Liberal crap that hosed up where they once lived.

I've pretty much concluded that this country is lost without a very drastic overhaul and purge of the Leftist mindset. Of course, I realize that isn't going to happen until it is far too late to be of any meaningful use.

So, I am just trying to hang on long enough until I can retire to India. Already own the property, and the Indian wife is working on the citizenship angle for me. Hate to do it, but unless the To Arms, To Arms call goes out soon, I'm going to be abandoning this place to become the Socialist Paradise that it seems inevitable to become.
Posted by: Spusosh the Prolific6862   2009-01-13 12:39  

#6  Harsh maybe, but more and more here in Colorado these ass-twat liberal Californians move out here, think we are backward ans want to make everything like it was back in California.

Um... didn't you morons leave because you DIDN'T like where you were?

Now granted there are a few that are not all liberal-wishy washy. We have two transplants in our office that are stark libertarians and hate liberals. But for the most part, I don't like 'em, don't want 'em and the majority of them can just right fuck off.
Posted by: DarthVader   2009-01-13 12:36  

#5  stay in the "paradise" you assholes created.

That's a bit harsh, DV, but I admit I used to feel the same way about New Yorkers when they were flooding out here in the 70's. I felt that way about people from Orange County and Los Angeles moving to San Diego but then, my wife is one of them. I still feel that way about the illegal aliens.

Californians are now the New Yorkers of the West. They used to have a bumper sticker in Oregon that said "Don't Californicate Oregon". I doubt if they still have it these days because so many Oregonians are from California.

But I learned that sometimes people move in masses and there isn't much the individual can do about it. The federal government, for instance, is directly responsible for immigration both legal and illegal. Other than vote for my congressman and senators, I have no control over that. Then I find out people who get elected are crooks.

Then there is the Community Reinvestment Act that I only learned about recently with the mortgage meltdown. There was a whole big push from all levels of government for "affordable housing". They kept telling us they needed to build more and more housing so poor people could afford homes but the reality became vast tracts of sticks and stucco that nobody can afford, crowded schools, crowded hospitals, congested freeways, smog and water shortages. I voted against it every time I could but the big money and the big government was against me. I could have run for office but the fix was in and I never would have won. I wouldn't have been a very good candidate anyway.

Most of my life I've spent scratching, clawing and struggling to establish a toehold of my own here but now that I have it I wonder why I didn't see what was becoming of it. Probably because I was too busy scratching, clawing and struggling.

I told you before, this used to be a much more conservative state than it is now. We gave you Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan. Remember? But the New Yorkers and the Mexicans changed all that. You heard it here first. Stop it where you live if you can.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305   2009-01-13 12:19  

#4  I agree with bman. Learn from the mistakes of unchecked liberalism and leave that decaying ideology at the border. Otherwise, stay in the "paradise" you assholes created.
Posted by: DarthVader   2009-01-13 11:26  

#3  Welcome to Weedpatch Camp, CO.
Posted by: swksvolFF   2009-01-13 11:12  

#2  Please leave your politics in California.
Posted by: bman   2009-01-13 10:48  

#1  In part because of the boom in population in other Western states, California could lose a congressional seat for the first time in its history.

Of course they won't, because the politician is mightier than the pen by insisting that phantom and ghost citizens be 'factored' in to the count. It'll take a states convention under the Constitution with the other 2/3rd of smaller states to stop that abuse before anything is seriously done to execute a true census for proportional representation. Interesting how those phantom and ghost citizen aren't able to keep the state treasury filled to the politician expectations./sarcasm off
Posted by: Procopius2k   2009-01-13 08:41  

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