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| 2009-01-21 |
| Military Losses, 1980-2007 Whatever your politics, however you lean and however you feel about the current administration, this report is interesting. As tragic as the loss of any member of the US Armed Forces is, consider the below statistics: The annual fatalities, by any cause, of military members while actively serving in the armed forces from 1980 through 2006: 1980 2,392 (Carter) 1981 2,380 (Reagan) 1984 1,999 (Reagan) 1988 1,819 (Reagan) 1989 1,636 (George H W) 1990 1,508 (George H W) 1991 1,787 (George H W) 1992 1,293 (George H W) 1993 1,213 ( Clinton ) 1994 1,075 ( Clinton ) 1995 2,465 ( Clinton ) 1996 2,318 ( Clinton ) 1997 817 ( Clinton ) 1998 2,252 ( Clinton ) 1999 1,984 ( Clinton ) 2000 1,983 ( Clinton ) 2001 890 (George W) 2002 1,007 (George W) 2003 1,410 (George W) 2004 1,887 (George W) 2005 919 (George W) 2006 920 (George W) 2007 899 (George W) Clinton years (1993-2000): 14,107 deaths George W years (2001-2007): 7,932 deaths Are you surprised when you look at these figures? They indicate the loss from the two latest Middle East conflicts are less than the loss of military personnel during Clinton 's presidency when America wasn't even involved in a war--unless you include Bosnia and Mogadishu , Somalia . (Remember "Blackhawk Down"?) Even more surprising is that in 1980, during Carter presidency, there were 2,392 US military fatalities! These figures appear to indicate many members of our media and politicians pick and choose the information on which they report--that they present only those "facts" that support their agenda. Consider the latest census of Americans. It shows the following distribution of American citizens by race: European descent 69.12 percent Hispanic 12.50 percent Black 12.30 percent Asian 3.70 percent Native American 1.00 percent Other 2.60 percent Many members of the media lead us to believe the military death ratio is off balanced compared to the distribution by race in America . Here are the fatalities by race over the past three years in Iraqi Freedom. European descent 74.31 percent Hispanic 10.74 percent Black 9.67 percent Asian 1.81 percent Native American 1.09 percent Other 0.33 percent Surprised again? Hopefully, intelligent Americans can decipher-- the facts from the spin. the spinners from the leaders. those who seek even more power from those that seek justice. the dividers from the uniters. These statistics are published by the Congressional Research Service and may be confirmed at: www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/RL32492.pdf "History does not entrust the care of freedom to the weak or timid." Dwight D. Eisenhower |
| Posted by:Besoeker |
| #6 Thanks Todd |
| Posted by: Large Snerong7311 2009-01-21 23:06 |
| #5 bigjim, not sure how they do things in kentucky, but it' a good idea to make sure yu don't look like an idiot before calling someone a dipshit. As "Large Snerong7311" said, look at the ACTUAL file at www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/RL32492.pdf and learn that the numbers posted don't correspond to the actual data. Besoeker just fell victim to some good ol' fashioned fuzzy numbers. A the very least, if something looks fishy, it probably is--a good lesson to keep in mind. |
| Posted by: Todd 2009-01-21 22:12 |
| #4 bigjim, not sure how they do things in kentucky, but it' a good idea to make sure yu don't look like an idiot before calling someone a dipshit. As "Large Snerong7311" said, look at the ACTUAL file at www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/RL32492.pdf and learn that the numbers posted don't correspond to the actual data. Besoeker just fell victim to some good ol' fashioned fuzzy numbers. A the very least, if something looks fishy, it probably is--a good lesson to keep in mind. |
| Posted by: Todd 2009-01-21 22:12 |
| #3 What's your point dipshit. The numbers don't lie, if you are inferring that Besoeker is bullshitting us you better have some pretty substantial documentation. |
| Posted by: bigjim-ky 2009-01-21 21:38 |
| #2 It makes me sick when my side engage on this. If you check the pdf that numbers posted here are a lie: The PDF numbers are this: 1980 2,392 1981 2,380 1982 2,319 1983 2,465 1984 1,999 1985 2,252 1986 1,984 1987 1,983 1988 1,819 1989 1,636 1990 1,507 1991 1,787 1992 1,293 1993 1,213 1994 1,075 1995 1,040 1996 974 1997 817 1998 827 1998 827 1999 796 2000 758 2001 891 2002 999 2003 1,228 2004 1,874 2005 1,942 2006 1,858 The argument is rather stupid too. In War and defending a country it is normal there are casualities. |
| Posted by: Large Snerong7311 2009-01-21 19:46 |
| #1 Whoa. You mean to tell me that what the MSM is telling us is a big lie? I am not surprised. |
| Posted by: JohnQC 2009-01-21 18:36 |