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Russia 'drops missile plans due to Obama change to US attitude'
2009-01-29
Russia has dropped plans to install missiles near Poland after the Obama administration signalled a change in US attitude to the region, a Moscow military official has reportedly said.
Obama got rolled. Over the next few months that will be as common as 'dog bites man'.
'Rolled' suggests he doesn't understand or accept the consequences. I'm not sure I believe that.
I'm not completely sure either, but he is rather clueless about a lot of stuff ...
The official suggested that Mr Obama's White House had made clear it would not prioritise executing the Bush administration's plan to install a missile defence shield in Poland and the Czech Republic.
Thus undercutting the Poles and Czechs who stuck their necks out for us. And sending a signal to any other country around the world that trusted the word of the U.S. prior to January 20th. This takes us back to the old Carter days when we actively undercut countries that formerly had been our allies, all to gain the approval of the Euro-left.
An unnamed official in the Russian military's general staff said: "The implementation of these plans has been halted in connection with the fact that the new US administration is not rushing through plans to deploy" elements of its missile defence shield in eastern Europe, according to the Interfax news agency.
'Not rushing' in this case is a prelude to deleting the funding for the project in next year's defense budget.
Vladimir Putin, the Russian Prime Minister, had warned that the US shield - which the Bush White House said was necessary to defend against potential attacks from the Middle East - would be interpreted by Moscow as a direct provocation.
Carrying water for the Iranians, since he knows the missiles aren't aimed at him. The only other explanation is that the Russian offensive missile capacity isn't nearly as good as the West thinks: that while we think they could overwhelm our defensive shield with sheer numbers, perhaps -- after the incompetence, lack of maintenance, and lack of upgrades -- they really can't.
Dmitry Medvedev, the Russian President, announced in November that in response, Moscow would place short-range Iskander missiles in the western enclave of Kaliningrad.
Which used to be called 'Prussia'. The Iskanders are offensive and clearly would threaten NATO. And Obama is going to cave.
Washington had previously obtained agreements with Poland and the Czech Republic for the installation of the shield, which it said would plug a gap in its global missile defence system.
More importantly, it would shield eastern and central Europe from whatever long-range missiles Iran could produce in the next couple of decades. Obama is making clear, with this act and with his letter to Iran, that he simply doesn't consider them to be a threat. And that isn't what he said in the campaign.
It said the shield was necessary to guard against long-range missiles that Iran was working to develop. The proposed system had received Nato-wide backing.
Because the Euros understood the threat and they also understood that Uncle Sam had the only counter. Now that's going to go away. The only defense the Euros will have against an Iranian threat of a long-range, nuclear-tipped missile will be 'talk'. And we already know how well that works.
Plans for the system were accelerated after the conflict between Russia and Georgia last year.
Because we saw the need to make clear to Putin that his actions had consequences. Now Putin will be emboldened to try more stunts.
Posted by:Steve White

#11  ION RUSSIA, WAFF > WORLD ECONOMIC FORUM: RUSSIA [Putin], CHINA [Wen Jiabao] BLAMES CAPITALISTS; + MILYUUUHNS OF CHINESE TO LOSE/FACE JOB LOSSES AFTER END OF NEW TEAR'S CELEBRATIONS [Approxi 20-30%(+) of China's 130Milyuhn PROVINCIAL CHINESE LOOKING FOR DOMESTIC URBAN-CITY WORK], + CCP OFFICIAL: 2009 WILL BE A DANGEROUS YEAR FOR CHINA AND WORLD ECONOMY???
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2009-01-29 21:47  

#10  Most of the US sites being discussed are early warning radar to protect the US from middle east missiles. They are misplaced to defend us from Russian missiles that would go over the North Pole and they are useless for protecting Europe becuase the intercept time is so short.

The Russians have been playing a shell game all along to continue their missile sales and be a pain. Now they can always play that missile car again now that they've pulled it back.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2009-01-29 19:18  

#9  I always felt that this was another example of Putin's political theater. He never intended to go through with his threat, and Obama's inaugeration just provides him with an excuse to pull back without losing any face.

All of this is for domestic and Euro-lefty consumption. Kind of like Hugo's recurring invasion scares. The difference is that Hugo actually believes his own dementia and Putin does not.

Expect Rusia's beligerency to disappear until the economy (and oil prices) turn up again.
Posted by: Frozen Al   2009-01-29 15:14  

#8  And its just going to get worse, the anti-us sentiment as a generation raised on being weary of the USA begins to mature. Was over at a colleagues house in Liepzig having dinner and his kids came to the table like, "Holy crap, real Americans in my house? Where are their horns and scales?"

The USA has done more than its fair share for Europe. They want an EU, they should have it with all the responsibilities of a nation. That includes its own defense. Perhaps if the euro elites and hollywood protected their own riviera houses they would begin to understand sometimes things are worth fighting for. However, if the plan is to leave do it right; and that is not by flinching like a over caffinated 12 year old.
Posted by: swksvolFF   2009-01-29 14:31  

#7  Let the European Union protect Europe. While I'm not an Obama supporter I agree with him on this. I thought Bush was make a poor decision pushing this. There was nothing to gain from doing this. I'm tired of the US being the hero for those who do not want help.
Posted by: Yosemite Sam   2009-01-29 12:25  

#6  Not surprising - when B.O. was getting taken to the woodshed by McCain during the debates about East Europe background and policy B.O. rambled a bit then started talking about houses in California (McCain fell for that one hard) effectively changing the subject (moderator didn't get back on task either).

I believe Europe is full of good people and bad government - a government which acts like a spoiled rich kid hooked on drugs. Talks about how cool he is, how everything is bad except peace man, then goes and withdraws a bunch of money from his inhieratence to buy more smack. Takes his friends over to the parents and doesn't care when they break and steal things. Then suddenly, one day, he's broke homeless and hooked.

Don't know about Iron Curtain or Fortress Europe II, but Russia is putting itself in a position to force its will, ie make Europe till the earth for them and fill the coffers of Moscow, and the only peoples of Europe who seem interested in physically fighting are these East Europe countries - because they have been there and don't want to go back.

And this isn't even saber rattling - President Obama is getting spooked by a guy across the street shaking a can full of pebbles.
Posted by: swksvolFF   2009-01-29 11:28  

#5  damn it's been less than 20 years looks like they would remember being cuddles up too that bear still
Posted by: rabid whitetail   2009-01-29 11:21  

#4  Spot On! Let the US hating Euro's cuddle up to the bear for a while.
Posted by: Besoeker   2009-01-29 09:51  

#3  While it sucks to leave the Poles and Czechs out on a limb, I never understood why we wanted to defend the EUroweenies in the first place. If they want to be defended, then they should do it themselves. If they don't care about being defended, that's their problem. It's high time we stopped paying to help people who despise us.
Posted by: Spot   2009-01-29 09:41  

#2  The Russkies only have nukes to rely upon. I suspect that the Poles could make any conventional military act by Moscow give the Georgian adventure the appearance of a parade through Red Square. This time they don't have to worry about the [once effective military] Germans invading from the west at the same time.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2009-01-29 09:17  

#1  another dark day for eastern europe... can the iron curtain II be far behind?
Posted by: Abu do you love   2009-01-29 00:50  

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