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The Last Ace
2009-02-18
by Mark Bowden

All about the F-22 and why it matters.
Posted by:Steve White

#14  F-22, waste of money. Until someone can challenge an F-15 we are just developing capability for our opponents to steal.
Posted by: rammer   2009-02-18 23:51  

#13  Trough the good services of our friends at DC.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2009-02-18 20:12  

#12  A fine article in The Atlantic and a pun by OS. Truely, 'tis a day of wonder! OK, Ok, anything by Mark Bowden is good. But the pun was unexpected.
Posted by: SteveS   2009-02-18 14:31  

#11  Grom:

You have socialism and fascism mixed up. We are headed toward a modern mix of national socialism and East German liberty.
Posted by: Jack is Back!   2009-02-18 13:16  

#10  Just like knowing you tells us all about how Israel went from the Yom Kippur War to tolerating Hamas and Hezbollah running mini-states on its borders.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain   2009-02-18 13:15  

#9  Actually I like you OldSpook---you're soo well informed & intelligent. Knowing you helps me to understand how USA went from being Word's bastion of free enterprise to socialism in two generations.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2009-02-18 13:03  

#8  And if you want a Lavi, go buy a Chinese J-10 Chengdu - the bastard Israelis sold the tech and design from the Lavi to the Chinese who built the J-10 off of it (Jerusalem Center for Public affairs revealed that).

The Lavi was scarcely better than a C Block 50 F-16 and inferior to the F/A-18F Super Hornet.
Posted by: OldSpook   2009-02-18 12:01  

#7  And FYI, the4 Lavi was cancelled 20+ years ago.
Posted by: OldSpook   2009-02-18 11:56  

#6  Grom, you are wrong. You show that you are a simpleton and an arrogant bigot, as is usually visible from you bilge filled posts. Piss off like the good little simpleton you are, Adults are talking here.
Posted by: OldSpook   2009-02-18 11:54  

#5  Our dependence on UAV and air cover demands that the F-22 be bought in sufficient numbers as to guaranteed superiority from the git-go.

Without it, our Army and Marine forces have become simply too few and too light to fight under circumstances other than air superiority.

As much as I rag on the zoomies here, the F-22 is required, if for nothgin else, as a deterrent.

THe F-35 can replace the harrier, F/A-18 and F-16 as it was designed to do.

It is not a replacement for the Starship.




Posted by: OldSpook   2009-02-18 11:53  

#4  Shows what you know OS.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2009-02-18 11:29  

#3  Well that's the question isn't it, OS. One could argue that the F-35 is capable enough that we should buy more of them instead of the F-22. I'm not an aviator and have no idea in the end what the right policy is.

The article makes a great point: our military takes air supremacy as the starting point for a lot of what it wants to do. If we don't have that the ground-pounders are potentially in big trouble.
Posted by: Steve White   2009-02-18 10:53  

#2  We need the F-22 in larger numbers if for no other reason than to replace the ancient F-15 airframes as they wear out.

Lavi? Junk. C'est Lavi.
Posted by: OldSpook   2009-02-18 08:16  

#1  Lavi, lavi, lavi.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2009-02-18 07:12  

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