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-Signs, Portents, and the Weather-
Swine flu could be man-made
2009-04-29
[Straits Times] INDONESIAN Heath Minister Siti Fadilah Supari said on Tuesday the deadly swine flu virus could have been man-made, as she urged calm over its spread around the world. The controversial minister did not elaborate but in the past she has said Western governments could be making and spreading viruses in the developing world to boost pharmaceutical companies' profits.

'I'm not sure whether the virus was genetically engineered but it's a possibility,' she told reporters at a press conference called to reassure the public over the government's response to the swine flu threat.

No cases of the disease have been reported in Indonesia, the country worst hit by the bird flu virus which has killed about 250 people worldwide since 2003.

Indonesian authorities have increased body temperature scanners at airports and banned imports of live pigs and pork products, amid World Health Organisation (WHO) warnings of a pandemic.

Ms Supari, a cardiologist, also claimed that the H1N1 strain of swine flu, which is believed to have killed more than 150 people in Mexico, could not survive in tropical countries like Indonesia.

'We have to be alert at all times although swine flu in Indonesia is not a cause for panic,' she said. 'H1N1 survives in countries with four seasons. The type A H1N1 virus hopefully won't be able to sustain itself once it enters the tropical climate of Indonesia.'

The virus has been found in 11 countries including Mexico, the United States and Spain, while several other countries from Colombia to New Zealand are investigating suspected cases.

Ms Supari said the health ministry had prepared 100 hospitals to handle swine flu cases should the disease enter Indonesia.

The minister has refused since 2006 to share all but a handful of Indonesia's bird flu virus samples with WHO researchers, saying the system is being abused by rich countries to develop profitable vaccines which poor countries must buy.
Posted by:Fred

#11  I heart your reference, Ebbang.

M-O-O-N. That spells swine.
Posted by: Mizzou Mafia   2009-04-29 21:29  

#10  Drudge red letter headline:

WHO says only 7 swine flu deaths not 152

So shouldn't the headline be in black?
Posted by: Cynicism Inc   2009-04-29 18:07  

#9  Somebody had to say it.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305   2009-04-29 15:04  

#8  Captain Trips!
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305   2009-04-29 14:57  

#7  It might be manmade, albeit inadvertent.

Using live virus flu vaccinations is just adding more genetic material, wild strains can combine with.
Posted by: Phil_B   2009-04-29 12:20  

#6  Yeah, that 5 year old Mexican kid on the pig farm is a world-class mad scientist in his spare time.
Posted by: mojo   2009-04-29 11:26  

#5  Egypt has no reported cases of the flu, it is not transmitted from eating pork, yet they are destroying the 300,000 swine there. Most likely any engineering would be be from the anti-capitalist, anti-western culture of death.
Posted by: Thealing Borgia 122   2009-04-29 11:08  

#4  Perhaps it was developed in order to scare the American people into universal health care.
Posted by: bman   2009-04-29 11:01  

#3  While it is not impossible that this bug was 'engineered' I am confident it would not have been done by evil and greedy Western pharmaceutical companies. IF (big 'if') it was intentionally created and released, it would have to have been done by a group which does not value life - perhaps a group which professes to "love death." Not likely, but more likely than the pharma scenario.
Posted by: Glenmore   2009-04-29 09:54  

#2  Step 1: Genetically engineer superflu.

Step 2: ??????

Step 3: Profit!
Posted by: Seafarious   2009-04-29 09:33  

#1  Umm this one's actually a bit simple to debunk. The virus has already been sequenced. They only need to check it against various lab samples and known strains. Creating a supervirus for profit is typical 3rd world fantasy BS.

The probable cause has been discussed here by others far more informed than me, and apparently for more informed than the Indonesian ignoramuses.

Step 1 Avian flu needed only one evolution to become able to infect pigs. Inoculating pigs with live virus could have caused this as well.

Step 2 Flu moves as normal H1 swine flu, from pigs to people. Happens every year, albeit in small numbers Still no human-to-human transmission. But the bird flu alleles may help that.

Step 3 Flu evolves to become type A transmittable between humans. Either corsses wiht Influenza A, or just a "lucky" hit.

Voila! ManBirdPig Virus. No evil pharma company or mad Islamic scientist needed.

And a cardiologist is not the person to quote about this - she knows diddly epidemiology. Stick to your specialty or earn the title of Doc Dumbass. I'd trust her as much as I would a Dentist or a plumber - they have pretty much the same level of specialized education in virology.
Posted by: OldSpook   2009-04-29 01:18  

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