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Caribbean-Latin America
Ecuador will shut US base, expand Iran ties
2009-05-29
[Iran Press TV Latest] Ecuadorian Defense Minister Javier Ponce Cevallos says his country is going beyond the Cold War rules and seeking defense ties with Iran. In a snub to US complaints, Ponce said, "we have our own policies, our own geostrategic positions, and what interests us, with Iran for instance, is boosting information technology and our national defense strategies," he told a radio channel in Ecuador.
Where else would you look for IT help other than Iran?
Actually, Iran's main university has a pretty strong IT program. They turn out a lot of students with strong math skills too. Meanwhile this country is in serious trouble with our younger workforce skills. I've been meeting with a lot of research teams in the US the last several months - by far the vast majority of grad students have been Iranian, Chinese and Indian, with a smaller contingent of eastern Europeans, Pakistanis and Arabs. I can count on one hand the number of native born American grad students/post docs in my science field that have been on those teams. Not a good time for us to be complacent - we are in real trouble, folks, and it WILL affect our defense posture and economic situation in the next decade.
Hokay, I stand corrected ...
He explained that Ecuador is trying to "open up to collaboration with nations that are very willing to help Ecuador develop its own defense industry."

The Ecuadorian and Iranian presidents in 2008 agreed to expand relations by establishing embassies in Tehran and Quito. This comes as the White House has expressed discomfort with Iran's growing influence in Latin America.

Ponce commented on the issue and said that his country plans to shut the US military base at Manta in western Ecuador within four months. "I believe that eventually there will be nothing left, and the US is removing all its infrastructure," he said.
Halfway down the article, and I'm still coming to terms with our interlocutor operating under the name of "ponce". I think I need to take a nap.
Despite strong domestic opposition, former Ecuadorian president Jamil Mahuad signed a deal that allowed the US in 1999 to use the base for ten years. In February, US Defense Secretary Robert Gates said Iran's close alliance with certain Latin American countries has caused more concern for him than Russia's recent naval maneuvers in the region. "I'm concerned about the level of frankly subversive activity that the Iranians are carrying on in a number of places in Latin America," Robert Gates told a Senate committee, without elaborating on what he meant by "subversive."

A number of leftist states in the region, namely Venezuela, Cuba, Ecuador, Nicaragua, and Bolivia, have all become allies of Iran in recent years and support Tehran's opposition to the unipolar international order built around US interests. Gates also accused Iran of "opening a lot of offices" in the region to meddle in the internal affairs of Latin American countries, despite the fact that the US has been meddling in Latin America's internal affairs -- often violently -- for over a century.

By adopting the so-called "Monroe Doctrine" [(named after James Monroe, the fifth US president 1817-1825)], the US has claimed for itself paternalistic oversight in Latin American affairs, in what it considers its 'backyard'. This view is rejected by the new set of democratically-elected, left-leaning governments of that continent which have replaced the US-backed military juntas.
Just as it was rejected by the old set of leftist revolutionaries and rightist juntists not backed by the US. The romantic idea of Latin America is that they didn't do it to themselves. No doubt this round will end just as poorly for the participants.
Posted by:Fred

#4  The problem in all Latin American countries, from Mexico to Chile, is that the monied class makes all the decisions, and the poor remain poor, with little chance for improvement. That's one reason we see tens of thousands of immigrants from those countries coming across the US border every month. Hugo is popular because he claims he's going to change the system. He is, but not the way the locals believe. Hugo is a socialist who wants to make everyone equally miserable under his dictatorial rule. The destruction caused by such dictators is why Latin America has never reached its lofty rhetorical goals, and why so many people remain poor. While the US has not always been "right" in interfering, most of the time it did so because some local tinpot was killing Americans simply because they were Americans. IIRC, the US has never invaded any nation in South America.
Posted by: Old Patriot   2009-05-29 13:24  

#3  Sad. Equidor is ideally placed as a spaceport. The capital is high, not far from ocean and potential rail traffic. Pretty much right on the equator with mass jungle downrange. I'd love to see Equador team up with one of the new space racing nations rather than the mullahs, a move which really seems to be a bluff for more CIA money.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2009-05-29 09:40  

#2   I can count on one hand the number of native born American grad students/post docs in my science field that have been on those teams. Not a good time for us to be complacent - we are in real trouble, folks, and it WILL affect our defense posture and economic situation in the next decade.

Why bother, the two decades of H1B visa programs has basically removed any incentive to put the time in only to see the lobbyists in Washington undermine your employment opportunities by making hiring foreign more cost effective for corporations. H1B was to be a temporary solution to a shortage, but has by its long run killed the process of growing our own.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2009-05-29 07:52  

#1  I wonder if they are going to bring back the sucre and stop using US Dollars as their official currency, too.
Posted by: Cornsilk Blondie   2009-05-29 07:38  

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