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Gaddafi Son: "If I had an atomic bomb I would wipe Switzerland off the map"
2009-08-18
"Hannibal's war", as diplomats call it, has been taking its toll on the land of Heidi: in the past year Libya has cut back oil supplies to the Swiss and withdrawn more than pound stg. 4.3 billion ($8.5bn) from their banks. Gaddafi has also severed air links with Switzerland, and several Swiss companies in Libya have been forced to close shop.

No match for an Arab nationalist leader used to life in the trenches, the Swiss have run up the white flag, offering talks.

Gaddafi, though, is not yet ready to forgive: his prime minister recently refused to meet the new Swiss charge d'affaires in Tripoli. Two Swiss businessmen are being held as virtual hostages by Gaddafi. "They are forbidden from leaving the country and are being held against their will," said Jean-Philippe Jutzi, a Swiss Foreign Ministry spokesman.

The trouble began when 33-year-old Hannibal and his wife, Aline, a former model, were arrested at a Geneva hotel and charged with assaulting their servants. One of them, a 35-year-old Tunisian identified only as Mona, said Aline had often hit her and threatened to throw her out of the window.

Hannibal and his wife, who was heavily pregnant at the time, were soon released and Geneva's prosecutor dropped the case when the plaintiffs withdrew their complaint after an undisclosed settlement.

Even so, Gaddafi, who has ruled Libya as a dictator for the past 40 years, was furious, particularly when he heard an account of what had happened from Aisha, his favourite daughter. According to a witness close to the Gaddafi clan, she told him Hannibal and Aline had been treated "like terrorists" and were held in a prison "worse than Abu Ghraib". "Honour must be saved," Gaddafi told his daughter.

It is just as well that Libya has renounced its bid to acquire nuclear weapons. "If I had an atomic bomb I would wipe Switzerland off the map," Hannibal is reported to have remarked afterwards.
Gaddafi still has the nuclear know-how.
The equipment he surrendered he can re-buy.
The POTUS is a "friend of a friend" (Wright/Farrakan), not to be feared.
He fell for Bush's bluff, and he's furious.
The "international community" doesn't issue a peep of protest as he is openly taking hostages.
I don't think this is going to end well.
Posted by:Speresing Thriper6241

#18  Hannibal?

See: Carthage.
Posted by: Pappy   2009-08-18 22:43  

#17  Wow -- two righteous rants and a serious analysis in a single thread. Well done, guys!
Posted by: trailing wife   2009-08-18 21:49  

#16  The Swiss should bankroll and Egyptian conquest of Libya. It would give Egypt oil and most nations probably wouldn't be all that sad over the loss of Libya as long as it came at the hands of another Muslim nation.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2009-08-18 17:13  

#15  Neutrality is a joke and a word filled with lies. The Swiss claim this when it fits their rotted minds and we turn a blind eye in some lost honor. This is all crap. The Swiss are really cowards of epic status. They stood by and took the German loot and watched the horrors of WWII. They derived profit from the death of 6 million Jews! The only thing neutral was they refused to help their fellow man. This is akin to standing in an alley and watching a woman getting raped and holding the rapist's wallet for him. Now they are happy to take cash from the latest murderers and rapists, this time from the Arab world. They still claim they are neutral yet they allow these people in their country, they allow them to harm domestic help, they then do nothing when their own people are abused abroad, as far as I'm concerned there is nothing neutral about them, they are the world's cowards and pasifists at best.
Posted by: 49 Pan   2009-08-18 17:11  

#14  also, how islamic can a dude be with a pagan name like Hannibal? (Grace (chen, hebrew/canaanite/punic) of Baal)
Posted by: liberal hawk   2009-08-18 16:32  

#13  "If I had an atomic bomb I would wipe Switzerland off the map," Hannibal is reported to have remarked afterwards.

Uh, dude, that won't be good for your Swiss bank account.
Posted by: Mike   2009-08-18 16:00  

#12  Okay, from the above, Libya is holding on to two swiss citizens. And is making faces.

We arent going to do anything unless the Swiss ask. They haven't. Cause, I suppose, to ask the US, or even UK or France or Germany to help, would be to violate their precious neutrality.

Swiss dont themselves have the power projection to do anything.

So they will bargain. Its not like they have some kind of global clout to lose.

So, bottom line, Libya is still creepy, and the Swiss are constrained by neutrality.

Nothing to see, move along.
Posted by: liberal hawk   2009-08-18 15:32  

#11  Gaddafi Son: Swiss King: "If I had an atomic bomb a Q ship I would wipe Switzerland Lybia off the map"
Posted by: Mike N.   2009-08-18 15:25  

#10  were held in a prison "worse than Abu Ghraib".

O' the humanity! How dare they hold Libyans in anything less than a 5 star prison.
Posted by: Mike N.   2009-08-18 15:15  

#9  During the Cold War, the big guys were forced to take notice of quaint fuss-boys in the savageries.

Hey, what exactly is holding us back from major human cockroach stomping.
Posted by: Sheger McGurque5408   2009-08-18 15:13  

#8  Granted Libya is a bizarre tinpot dictatorship, a basketcase, a joke ruled by a family of jokers.

Still, the Gaddafi family is showing blatant disrespect for the strategic space that is Western Europe, a disconcerting fearlessness that implies that for them, western deterrence is non-existent.

Mercy and restraint in the post 9/11 wars on Afghanistan and Iraq may or may not have been a good response to the conditions over there, but the absence of a decisive victory over Afghanistan and Iraq, seems to have emboldened thugs any tyrants in the Arab-Islamic world (and elsewhere).

The fundamental question is still unanswered:
Is a mass-fatality attack on the West, a WMD attack on the West, a deadly mistake or a winning move?

Switzerland btw is neutral but very small, a nuclear attack on Swiss population centers centers would have direct catastrophic consequences for France, Germany and Italy.

A nuclear strike on Basel for example would kill thousands (maybe tens of thousands) of Germans in Germany and French in France. So Gaddafi is threatening NATO here, with impunity.
Posted by: Speresing Thriper6241   2009-08-18 13:41  

#7  It would take more than one atomic bomb to wipe Switzerland off the map. I estimate only one such bomb would render Libya irrelevant to the rest of the world for a few centuries.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418   2009-08-18 12:24  

#6  Do you think Hannibal knows that the Swiss probably have working nuke bomb designs, unlike Libya?

Swiss planned a nuclear bomb

SWITZERLAND maintained the option to develop its own nuclear weapons until 1988, according to a detailed account released by the Swiss government. The country's atomic bomb programme, which ran for 43 years, included a secret stockpile of uranium, an attempt to buy weapons-grade plutonium and plans for 400 nuclear warheads.
Posted by: john frum   2009-08-18 12:13  

#5  Barry must send someone to Bern and Tripoli to meddle mediate. Someone, possibly a spare Tsar who speaks both Switzerlandish and Libyanese.
Posted by: Besoeker   2009-08-18 12:07  

#4  This is maddening. No, really, this drives me crazy... let's all keep that in mind whenever PC enforcers bring neocolonialism... who's the "neocolonialist", here?

Anyway, not an isolated case, from a general point of view (too many cases reporteed over the years of oil sheiks getting away with kufrs laws in kufrs lands, due to their - stolen, parasitical, satrapic - wealth, from saudis subverting the West slowly, one bribe at a time, to french authorities basically building an highway exit, with ad hoc evictions of french home owners, so an oil prince can access his palace more easily,...), or from those kaddafy scumbags... one spawn caught driving the Champs Elysées drunken and in the wrong way (Btw, all of the Champs Elysées avenue is now badically owned by oil ticks, shops & palaces, while the street itself is a favorite playground of Youths from the 'hoods), gendarmes get assaulted by his boduguards, he gets scott free (even though he doesn't have any diplomaric immunity); one spawn caught at an hotel after a domestic disturbance, with guns and drugs, gets off scot free; this one in Switzerland (why, can't the Master Race abuse its slaves just as it wishes and does at home? Who do those kufrs think they are, to think their laws apply to their better???).

Not to mention the very successful hostage trading with the bulgarian nurses... hey, if lybia can get away with no blame at all for having them raped by dogs, why should they stop playing the Guantanamo or abu ghraib card??? After all, their Honor™ is at stake.

All this from a tinpot dictator, an inbred crackpot, from a sh*thole of a country that DOES NOT produce anything of any value, past the devil's excrement whitey has found, made useful and then exploited, before the natives applied their Legitimate Right™ to steal it... and couldn't fight back even today's italian army if Italy wished to recolonize the country...

Please, compare this... place to Switzerland, in terms of the human quality (work, organization, civil mindedness,...) of the respective population... or even, from a "manly" perspective (hey, we're dealing with arabo-muslims, here, "manliness" is very dear to those insecure, aggressive types), think of the respective military prowess, now and then, of the two, lybia and Switzerland...

Add that kadaffy is in a permanent blackmail mode against Europe, through immigration, and that he gloats publicly at the upcoming islamization of Europe and the conquest of Rome.

Such a lovely lad. Wasn't he dying of some kind of cancer? Dang.
Posted by: anonymous5089   2009-08-18 11:58  

#3  There are only so many places on the planet to tuck his loot. It doesn't seem wise to ruin the Swiss one.
Posted by: 3dc   2009-08-18 11:49  

#2  Gaddafi's son doesn't fall too far from the tree--both spoiled and rotten fruit.
Posted by: JohnQC   2009-08-18 11:37  

#1  Taking on the Swiss is like beating up the little fat kid. Muzzies around the world should be proud of their lion Gaddafi! But then I guess beating sevants and threatening them with death is ok in Libya!
Posted by: 49 Pan   2009-08-18 11:07  

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