You have commented 339 times on Rantburg.

Your Name
Your e-mail (optional)
Website (optional)
My Original Nic        Pic-a-Nic        Sorry. Comments have been closed on this article.
Bold Italic Underline Strike Bullet Blockquote Small Big Link Squish Foto Photo
-Signs, Portents, and the Weather-
U.S. Chamber of Commerce seeks trial on global warming
2009-08-26
I definitely want the popcorn concession on this one.
The nation's largest business lobby wants to put the science of global warming on trial.
Whee! This is going to be fun!
The U.S. Chamber of Commerce, trying to ward off potentially sweeping federal emissions regulations, is pushing the Environmental Protection Agency to hold a rare public hearing on the scientific evidence for man-made climate change.

Chamber officials say it would be "the Scopes monkey trial of the 21st century" -- complete with witnesses, cross-examinations and a judge who would rule, essentially, on whether humans are warming the planet to dangerous effect.

"It would be evolution versus creationism," said William Kovacs, the chamber's senior vice president for environment, technology and regulatory affairs. "It would be the science of climate change on trial."

The goal of the chamber, which represents 3 million large and small businesses, is to fend off potential emissions regulations by undercutting the scientific consensus over climate change. If the EPA denies the request, as expected, the chamber plans to take the fight to federal court.
Go for it. But not in the jurisdiction of the 9th Circus....
In the coming weeks, the EPA is set to formally declare that the heat-trapping gases scientists blame for climate change endanger human health, and are thus subject to regulation under the Clean Air Act. The so-called endangerment finding will be a cornerstone of the Obama administration's plan to set strict new emissions standards on cars and trucks
bankrupt the country and turn us into a third world backwater.
The proposed finding has drawn more than 300,000 public comments. Many of them question scientists' projections that rising temperatures will lead to increased mortality rates, harmful pollution and extreme weather events such as hurricanes.
Cranks, the lot of 'em. Just ask Bambi.
In light of those comments, the chamber will tell the EPA in a filing today that a trial-style public hearing, which is allowed under the law but nearly unprecedented on this scale, is the only way to "make a fully informed, transparent decision with scientific integrity based on the actual record of the science."
Well, jeez - we can't have that.

More at the link.
Posted by:Barbara Skolaut

#8  Tenn. That way he can be buried in the licensed toxic mining op his daddy set up with Armand Hammer
Posted by: Frank G   2009-08-26 21:18  

#7  No one can take your dreams away Frank. BTW, which mansion would you like Al to expire in?

Fast Comapny Dec 2007:
Financial disclosure documents released before the 2000 election put the Gore family's net worth at $1 million to $2 million. After years of public service--and four kids needing high-priced educations--Al and Tipper used to fret occasionally about money. Not anymore. They have a new multimillion-dollar home in a tony section of Nashville and a family home in Virginia, and have recently bought a multimillion-dollar condo at the St. Regis condo/hotel in San Francisco. Available data indicate a net worth well in excess of $100 million.
Posted by: ed   2009-08-26 20:50  

#6  I can dream, no?
Posted by: Frank G   2009-08-26 20:46  

#5  I hope he dies alone, penniless, freezing to death inside his megamansion


Sorry dude, by Al's made $100 million since leaving office. There's big money in govt. mandated waste peddling snake oil.
Posted by: ed   2009-08-26 20:37  

#4  Dick Rutan's argument available in a PowerPoint presentation at http://rps3.com/Files/AGW/Rutan.AGWdataAnalysis%20v11.ppt

"Carbon Dioxide is not a pollutant"
Posted by: Lone Ranger   2009-08-26 20:23  

#3  Gore would never appear in an honest debate. He's a lying snake-oil salesman. A fraud, and a moral cretin. I hope he dies alone, penniless, freezing to death inside his megamansion
Posted by: Frank G   2009-08-26 20:20  

#2  Let's see - following the Scopes Monkey Trial, William Jennings Bryant lasted all of five days, before dying a broken and disgraced man. Keeping that thought in mind .......


Dick Rutan representing the forces of reason, and Al Gore representing the forces of lunatic hysteria.

And then - may history repeat itself.

That poetic justice would be sweet!
Posted by: Lone Ranger   2009-08-26 20:10  

#1  USCC should call Stephen Wolfram as an expert on Computer modelling and chaotic complexity.

It's his book that made me realise (although that is not the intention of the book) that computer models have near zero predictive power unless there are massive dampeners that basically mean the fancy model is pointless.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles   2009-08-26 19:51  

00:00