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Home Front: Politix
White House rips '2-face' Giuliani for ex-mayor's comments on 9/11 plotters
2009-11-17
The White House on Sunday slapped down ex-Mayor Rudy Giuliani and other critics of its decision to try the 9/11 plotters in New York City.

White House adviser David Axelrod took to the Sunday morning airwaves to accuse Giuliani and other Republicans of two-faced politics.

"When the 20th 9/11 bomber [Zacarias Moussaoui] was tried in Virginia, in a civilian court, and convicted, Mayor Giuliani testified in that case and he heralded the outcome," Axelrod said on CNN.

Axelrod's counter-punch came after Giuliani appeared on Fox, CNN and ABC bashing the plan to make 9/11 mastermind Khalid Shaikh Mohammed and four of his henchmen face justice just blocks from the World Trade Center they're accused of demolishing.

Giuliani said moving the case to a Manhattan federal court "seems to be an overconcern with the rights of terrorists and a lack of concern for the rights of the public."

He said Mohammed and his co-conspirators should stay in Guantanamo Bay and face a military tribunal for war crimes.

"What the Obama administration is telling us loud and clear is that both in substance and reality the war on terror from their point of view is over," Giuliani said.

He contends it was a mistake to try the 1993 World Trade Center bombers in New York even though at the time he supported it.

"We're going to go back to the pre-9/11 approach that we had in 1993, trying it as a civilian matter, which turned out to be a terrible mistake," Giuliani said. "They are repeating the mistake of history."

Axelrod countered that Giuliani is trying to rewrite history.

"So he may have changed his view, but we haven't changed ours," Axelrod bristled.

After Moussaoui was convicted in 2006, but spared the death penalty by a federal jury, Giuliani said he was "in awe of our system."

"It does demonstrate that we can give people a fair trial, that we are exactly what we say we are. We are a nation of law. . . .I think [Moussaoui's] going to be a symbol of American justice."

In his dramatic announcement Friday, U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder's said he will seek the death penalty for Al Qaeda thugs, saying the pursuit of justice had been delayed too long.

Asked about the decision, Secretary of State Clinton told NBC, "I'm not going to second guess any decision that the attorney general made."

Clinton said she supports seeking death for the plotters whose evil cost 2,973 lives.

Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) agreed that executing the defendants, who all asked for executions at Gitmo in order to be "martyrs," will "speak louder than anything else" and won't put the city always in Al Qaeda's sights at greater risk.

"The best way to serve justice is give him the ultimate penalty he deserves," Schumer said of Mohammed.
Posted by:Fred

#6  David Axelrod: "I'll let you speak Rudy, but Beyonce was a much better mayor of New York".
Posted by: DMFD   2009-11-17 19:49  

#5  4) makes our judicial system a farce.

I don't think KSM has to do anything for that to be seen. It was SCOTUS Justice Kennedy that opened the can of worms when he choose to ignore precedent in dealing with illegal combatants. It's a self inflicted wound.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2009-11-17 13:36  

#4  Lex: is there any doubt in your mind that the man is guilty?

I mean, other than KSM has admitted his involvement, indeed gloried in it?

The issue about a civilian trial is that having one 1) forces the government to reveal information from classified sources 2) gives KSM a forum for his hateful ideology 3) allows KSM and his lawyers at the CCR an opportunity to harm our country again 4) makes our judicial system a farce.

Now you might not care about that, indeed, you might even want to see those things happen.

But we don't.

KSM can have a military tribunal. He can have his sentence reviewed by a military appeals court.

And then he can be hanged.
Posted by: Steve White   2009-11-17 12:44  

#3  Hilly's backing up as fast as she can, so she doesn't get any on her when the feces hit the fan.
Posted by: mojo   2009-11-17 11:13  

#2  The difference is Moussaoui was already in custody prior to AQ's act of war.
Think of the outrage (not by me) if his status had been flipped to non-uniformed combatant after the attack, which if I'm not mistaken would have made him eligible for immediate execution.
I have it on good authority that Camp Delta contains some of the most vile and hateful people on the planet who would kill Americans again given half a chance. The world would be a better place if they were dragged out, wrapped in bacon and hung.
Posted by: NCMike   2009-11-17 08:29  

#1  "The best way to serve justice is give him the ultimate penalty he deserves."

Sentence first, trial by jury after!

So, riddle me this: how is it "justice" if the verdict and the sentence are known in advance?

Or is the whole point of this show trial really to indict the Bush administration's methods?
Posted by: lex   2009-11-17 01:00  

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