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Archbishop of Canterbury claims higher taxes would be good for society
2009-11-17
Dr Rowan Williams said that taxation should not be seen as a way of stifling business or redistributing wealth but helping to make the world a better place in which to live.
Spoken like a man who doesn't pay any ...
He called for new levies to be introduced on financial transactions and carbon emissions, and an end to the idea that unlimited economic growth is desirable.
Let's not work to help the poor, just to impoverish the wealthy and middle-class so as to make everyone 'equal'. Is that Leviticus or Acts of the Apostles?
Aye, 'tis a problem beyond the ken o' the likes of us! We must ask the vicar! He'll know!
The archbishop also claimed reality television gives us "alarming glimpses" of what the world would look like were everyone to be governed by self-interest.
That bit is true, but unconnected to his main point.
Dr Williams, the most senior cleric in the Church of England and a self-confessed "hairy lefty", has made a series of critical statements since last year's banking crisis on the excesses of the financial sector and Labour's attempt to spend its way out of recession.
Few of his statements, from what I've seen have made any sense. Those that have made sense have involved dinner. Poor Christopher Johnson's becoming incoherent just trying to keep up with the vagaries of Anglican self-destruction.
In his latest comments, delivered to the TUC Economics Conference on Monday, he pointed out that the term "economics" derives from a Greek word meaning "housekeeping" and should be about "creating a habitat that we can actually live in".
So when is the Anglican church selling its treasures to help the poor?
Don't be silly. They're holding that as a sacred trust.
He's talking about a world that's comfortable for vicars and hospitable to hairy lefties.
However he said that over the past few decades, the market has been treated as an "independent authority", creating social disruption around the world and the "extraordinary phenomena" of debt trading. Dr Williams claimed that the "fantasies of unlimited growth" had led to a "vicious cycle" in which consumers are encouraged to buy more goods, which also uses up limited energy and raw materials. Instead, he said the economy should be geared towards creating a secure and sustainable environment for families.
Let 'em stay poor, that way they'll flock to the church and turn over their few coins in the plate.
He prefers quaint country folk who tug the forelock as they pass the vicar...
As part of this, the archbishop said: "We have to ask about 'green taxes' (including 'green' tax breaks) that will check environmental irresponsibility and build up resources to address the ecological crises that menace us.
So that everyone can be green. And poor. Except for the bishops.
"It is of course connected with other proposals about currency exchange taxation -- the 'Tobin tax' idea: the point is that we should be thinking about taxation neither as an unreasonable burden on enterprise nor as a simple mechanism of redistribution but as a potentially sophisticated tool for long-term 'economy' -- housekeeping. "Taxation builds a habitat -- already, quite properly, through state welfare provision, but potentially in other less familiar ways."
Spoken like a man who understand the need to reach into the till.
Moving on to describe a "human life well-lived", Dr Williams said: "If you live in a world where everything encourages you to struggle for your own individual interest and success, you are being encouraged to ignore the reality of other points of view -- ultimately, to ignore the cost or the pain of others. "The result may be a world where people are very articulate about their own feelings and pretty illiterate about how they impact on or appear to others -- a world of which 'reality television' gives us some alarming glimpses."
Not like the life of a holy man, lived close to the common folk, empathizing with them, feeling their pain, sharing their triumphs, if any...
He admitted it is not necessary to believe "Christian doctrine" in order to develop a "three-dimensional humanity",
"Certainly not! Why, the Mohammedans have values just as valid as ours, and likely more valid!"
but added: "Politics left to managers and economics left to brokers add up to a recipe for social and environmental chaos.
Yup, no need to believe in a Christian doctrine. Heck, the archbishop doesn't, so why should you?
"We are all a bit shy, understandably so, of making too much of moral commitment in public discourse; we are wary of high-sounding hypocrisy and conscious of the unavoidable plurality of convictions that will exist in a modern society. Yet the truth is that the economic and social order isn't a self-contained affair, separate from actual human decisions about what is good and desirable."
Posted by:Fred

#11  D *** NG IT, IMO at least the good ARCHBISHOP is one of the very few world personages to formally admit or infer it.

AMERIKANS = IRANIANS, etal = WHERE'S OUR VOTE, not only for OWG-NWO per se but also for TRANS-NATIONAL, REGIONAL, + GLOBAL TAXATION TO SUPPOR SAME. among other???

"2012" MOVIE > IMO "powers that be" trying to scare the US-World into OWG-NWO THAT NO ONE PRO FORMA = DE FACTO ASKED, EXPLAINED, OR VOTED FOR, NOR INTEND TO [for a long while to come, iff evar].
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2009-11-17 21:18  

#10  > The diiference between charity and "forced charity" is deeper than the marianas trench.

I like to highlight this by calling rape "vagina redistribution".
Posted by: Bright Pebbles   2009-11-17 17:29  

#9  Sorry Mitch if I'm ignorant here on this side of the pond. Are you saying that taxes support the COE?
Posted by: CrazyFool   2009-11-17 17:15  

#8  CrazyFool, why would a branch of the government pay taxes to itself? As for Williams wanting forelock-tuggers who pay their tithes, he doesn't *want* tithes, he wants his fair share of the loot taxes.

Frankly, I'm waiting for the rest of the Anglican communion to put the Archbishop on trial for heresy. He's pretty much thrown the Nicean Creed out with the bathwater.
Posted by: Mitch H.   2009-11-17 16:02  

#7  I love how so many churches are so eager to advocate using the power of govt. to force people to pay for the things the churches want done but can't get their own members to pony up for. Just one of a long list of reasons I walked from the Episcopal/Anglican Church.
Posted by: xbalanke   2009-11-17 14:43  

#6  The Archdruid is on a roll. He's in favor of Sharia law also as only a hairy leftist could.
Posted by: Muggsy Glink   2009-11-17 13:25  

#5  Y'mean that loon is still walking around loose? I thought they tossed him into an asylum...
Posted by: mojo   2009-11-17 11:09  

#4  The diiference between charity and "forced charity" is deeper than the marianas trench.
Posted by: flash91   2009-11-17 10:32  

#3  But P2K you forget that all those nasty rules are not for the elite of which he considers himself one. The same with the Gores and Obamas of this world.

They are wannabe dictators whose creed is "What's mine is mine and what's yours is mine".
Posted by: AlanC   2009-11-17 09:09  

#2  What part of 'thou shall not covet' does this man not understand? It's not like recalling 10 basic instructions would be that hard.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2009-11-17 08:18  

#1  Wow! You mean the Church of England is going to give up its Tax Exempt status? cool!

What? No?

Then shut the f**k up.
Posted by: CrazyFool   2009-11-17 00:32  

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