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| Media Missing the Plot on ‘Climate Gate’: It’s the Fraud, Stupid! |
| 2009-11-24 |
| Posted by:GolfBravoUSMC |
| #11 Interesting point, Bright Pebbles. I think the American side is a bit different, though. At least I hope so. |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2009-11-24 23:35 |
| #10 trailing wife It's East Anglia polytechnic were talking about here. It wasn't ever highly rated. That's why it was always called the Hadley centre, rather than the center for climate scamming, East Anglia poly. |
| Posted by: Bright Pebbles 2009-11-24 19:50 |
| #9 There will be investigations, at least at the universities, because they can't have allow bad science to be done in one department if they want to attract and keep good scientists in other departments. It's one thing to push a bit, that happens everywhere. It's quite another to collude in fudging and faking the data. Scientists are aware that eventually History will know all, and they don't want to be associated with a Piltdown Man or a Lysenko. |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2009-11-24 16:08 |
| #8 I don't think they were missing the plot, they were in on it. Deacon Blues nailed it. All I can add is that you're not going to see a shred of honest reporting in the American MSM (for ex., the NYT climate reporter who's one of the people in this email chain, or the WaPo reporter who's married to one of the Beltway's most prominent AGW alarmists). Hit the UK's newspapers for the straight scoop...even the Guardian's doing better than any of our fishwrappers. |
| Posted by: Ricky bin Ricardo (Abu Babaloo) 2009-11-24 15:51 |
| #7 Jeebus, Al Gore is resembling Boss Hogg more and more each day. I guess the $100M sheared from the unwary sheep buys lots of good eating. |
| Posted by: ed 2009-11-24 10:32 |
| #6 The thing is, all the true-believers, which includes all of the MSM, academia, and the elite ruling political class, write all of this off as "no big deal" and a "conspiracy" by AGW deniers. So they ignore it. I doubt this will change any minds. Those entrenched in the AGW hysteria will simply look the other way, just as they do with the most recent climate data that confirms the planet has not been warming in the last 11 years the way the "experts" said it would. They just fire back with some convoluted explanation about ice caps melting, ocean temperatures, and gulf stream cycles creating a "false positive" that global warming is not happening when it's actually a lot worse than we think. |
| Posted by: eltoroverde 2009-11-24 10:01 |
| #5 "Get the popcorn at the ready." I tripled my popcorn order as soon as I read about this mess, Albert. :-D |
| Posted by: Barbara Skolaut 2009-11-24 08:55 |
| #4 When I downloaded the pirated docs last Friday, I was truly shocked at them. They were obviously too good to be fakes. This stuff is straight out of Thomas Kuhn's 'Structure of Scientific Revolutions', about how ego, careers and politics can influence even the scientific process in the hard sciences. The trick is to get the political class to listen. |
| Posted by: Mizzou Mafia 2009-11-24 08:00 |
| #3 they were in on it Yep. Crisis sells columns and airtime. It hasn't changed in over a hundred years. The year was 1897 and tensions were high in the United States due to the growing conflict between our close neighbor Cuba and Spain. William Randolph Hearst, already an established newspaper owner in San Francisco was engaged in a fierce battle for readers between his newly acquired paper the New York Journal and Joseph Pulitzer's highly successful New York World. Hearst knew that a war, particularly a war with the involvement of the United States would increase his newspaper distribution dramatically. Hearst championed the Cuban rebels and welcomed a U.S. declaration of war. He launched a scathing series of attacks in his daily editorials aimed at the Spanish government for its hostile actions and towards the United States government for not doing anything about it. He called for war at a time when the country was just healing from the wounds of the Civil War and was itching for an excuse to flex some military muscle. He spent untold sums of money to send reporters and corespondents to Cuba to capture the stories of Cuban insurrection. When his artist correspondent, Frederick Remington,arrived in Cuba to cover the anticipated Spanish-American war only to find there were no visible signs of war and cabled Hearst for permission to come home,Hearst reportedly cabled back, ''You provide the pictures, and I'll provide the war.''This strategy worked, as the Journal sold more than a million copies during theheight of the crisis. It also foretold of what was to come in Hearst's newspapers,the fact that a publisher and the President had an equal right to act for the nation. Talk about corrupt and evil insurance companies. They're minor leaguers compared to the media. |
| Posted by: Procopius2k 2009-11-24 07:38 |
| #2 I don't think they were missing the plot, they were in on it. |
| Posted by: Deacon Blues 2009-11-24 07:03 |
| #1 Destroying or deleting documents/files requested under FOIA - Criminal activity. It's not the crime, it's the cover up. Now Sen. Imhofe wants to hold hearings. Get the popcorn at the ready. |
| Posted by: Albert Ebbager8936 2009-11-24 06:42 |