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| Iran acknowledges prisoners were beaten to death |
| 2009-12-20 |
| [Asharq al-Aswat] Iran's hard-line judiciary acknowledged for the first time Saturday that at least three prisoners detained after June's disputed presidential election were beaten to death by their jailers, confirming a key claim by the country's opposition movement. The surprising acknowledgment followed months of repeated denials by police and other authorities that the deaths of protesters in Iranian custody were caused by abuse. In a statement, the judiciary said 12 officials at Kahrizak prison were charged, three of them with murder. The prison, on the southern outskirts of the capital, Tehran, was at the center of the opposition's claims that prisoners were tortured and raped in custody. The claims embarrassed Iran's clerical rulers and forced Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei to order the closure of the facility. Police and judiciary officials had for months rejected the claims, saying the deaths were caused by illnesses, not physical mistreatment. Authorities fired back, accusing the opposition of running a campaign of lies against the ruling system. "The coroner's office has rejected that meningitis was the cause of the deaths and has confirmed the existence of signs of repeated beatings on the bodies and has declared that the wounds inflicted were the cause of the deaths," the Web site of Iran's state TV quoted the statement as saying. The opposition says at least 72 protesters were killed in the postelection crackdown, but the government puts the number of confirmed dead at 30. Iran's police chief, Gen. Ismail Ahmadi Moghaddam, said in August that protesters were beaten by their jailers at Kahrizak, but he maintained the deaths were not caused by the abuse. The opposition's criticism was implicitly aimed at the elite Revolutionary Guard, which operates with some autonomy from the ruling clerics and led the harsh crackdown and detention of protesters in the tense weeks after the election. The unrest broke out after Iran's opposition leader, Mir Hossein Mousavi, claimed he was robbed of the presidency through massive fraud in the vote. |
| Posted by:Fred |
| #15 GirlThursday, around here when we do that we say, "Fixed it for you." Perhaps you've noticed the acronym FIFY and wondered what it was. And now you've done it. Congratulations, my dear. As for the other, I'm sure any jihadi who tries jumping out of the bushes at you or any of your friends will be terribly sorry after, regardless from where his ancestors might have come. |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2009-12-20 22:13 |
| #14 hey I shouldn't have had that in quotes since i altered it. Sry. |
| Posted by: GirlThursday 2009-12-20 20:41 |
| #13 " its better to fight and die than even think about a world ruled by these Ah, definitely. Slightly off topic but some jihadi mofo of M.E. descent has been lurking the bushes on the local village footpath around here trying to jump out and nab runners. He tried three times w/o success before being jailed. He'll be out before long, no doutbt. If that mofo jumps out on GirlThursday, he will get lit on fire. Literally. I carry a hairspray and a lighter. Plus a knife. Who said you have to put up with Islam when you can attack it right back? |
| Posted by: GirlThursday 2009-12-20 20:40 |
| #12 Angleton9, if you are an American and of the proper age, maybe you should run for Pres. Id probably vote for you!! |
| Posted by: GirlThursday 2009-12-20 20:27 |
| #11 Give China a big juicy cut? What for? Been done already!! |
| Posted by: GirlThursday 2009-12-20 20:25 |
| #10 I like Angleton9's attitude too! |
| Posted by: Ptah 2009-12-20 19:20 |
| #9 D*amn A-9, I like your style! Of course, the Ball$ in DC are mostly made of Brie, not brass, so your dream shall come to naught..... |
| Posted by: Uncle Phester 2009-12-20 16:09 |
| #8 I've said on this site for years that it's far better to be feared than to be treated with contempt. Our "leadership" doesn't understand that, and keep feeding the contempt. Take the gloves off, smash completely, and then ask if they want more (being quite willing to give them everything they can take, and then 50% more). Until we get rid of the "internationalists" in State, the cowards in Defense, and the greedy in the rest of our government, we'll keep playing stupid games and soaking up casualties. That kind of behavior is stupid, but it lines the pockets of far too many in Washington. Perhaps our first military strike should be there, rather than overseas. |
| Posted by: Old Patriot 2009-12-20 13:49 |
| #7 Personally I like Angleton9's attitude. Speaking from the "Patience my ass, I'm going to kill something" school of counterinsurgency, every time we have taken a punch in the snoot from an insurgency, it is because we did not go after their "safehavens". Right now, ripping Iran a new rectum would solve a lot of problems in Iraq, Israel, Pakistan, etc., I think the Saudis might even appreciate that for about six nanoseconds while they wash their hands in their 24K gold faucets... We've watched the IAEA and the EU come to the table with Iran and present proposals that the mullah's promptly wipe their butts with, when are the cowards and sissies going to recognize that these nuts think of negotiation as weakness...I think the Spartans had the right idea, its better to fight and die than even think about a world ruled by these animals. |
| Posted by: Karl Rove 2009-12-20 12:13 |
| #6 Angleton9, how will we ever know how you feel if you keep holding back? Seriously, that was great. Thanks. |
| Posted by: WolfDog 2009-12-20 11:30 |
| #5 Remind me not to pi$$ you off, Angleton9! |
| Posted by: Bobby 2009-12-20 11:23 |
| #4 How much popular support for a War would Iran enjoy INTERNALLY right now if one were to break out requiring the young people of Iran to rush to the aid of the Regime? If Iran were hit from all sides by a US Administration serious about crippling Iran militarily and economically, just trashing the country down to junk and bare pipes. ? And then leaving it to gag on its broken teeth.? No need to invade it...just draw off after the damage was done and watch it bleed. Hit it again in, say< a year. This time rip off Khuzestan and 80% of its Oil fields.(take its wallet) Then move in about four Divisions to hold that and ruthlessly transport the entire population OUT (just dispossess them) into Iran proper and move in Iraqis to work the Oil fields and repopulate the region. Use the Zagros Mountains as a shield, take the roads and cover the entire approaches to the new possessions with air assets...nothing moves over those passes and mountain roads without air covering it completely. The Iranians couldnt counter attack unless they bled to death assaulting through those mountain roads. There is no way to come around. Get full Iraqi support with a big cut in ALL of the Iranian Oil.( BUY the Iraqis..they can be bought) Use Iranian Oil to pay for it. Of course its nasty and greedy...and violent. Use Iraqis to do Occupation. All we have to do is crack and cut and draw the lines...then pull back and let the region bleed while we move up Air superiority for the next phase. Greed works. And so does Violence. It only fails when you dont have the nerve and will to kill enough and keep it up. You can win any war if you kill enough. The trick is the willingness to pile them up. Like the Mongols took Bukhkara.... Genghis Khan appeared 400 miles BEHIND the Shah's Army already bled dry by three Mongol Divisions at the border by sweeping a two month crossing of a desert thought impassible. He took the city with no defenses, sacked it systematically and drove the population off to work in Mongolia. (have a good time and pack a Lunch). Then he hunted the Shah down like a rat. If you are ruthless enough wars can be won. The secret is to ignore the UN and piss on the rest. Will they fight to stop you? No. Will they stand there and whine? Who cares? Screw 'em. Obama wont last forever. What we want is man who will pull the trigger..even more ruthless than Cheney next time. There is nothing inevitable about the America's "decline" or the economy as it is. Are the EUroweenies our friends? The answer to anti-American sentiments is take their wallets and pull down their pants. Give as good as you get. Keep the money and give them back the empty wallet. They dont like it... tell 'em to speak French. Give China a big juicy cut, and let the rest live on the sh*t in their pants. Dont bow, have an attitude. |
| Posted by: Angleton9 2009-12-20 08:33 |
| #3 A leadership that flaunts its accumulation of nuclear weapons is hardly worried about paper wads from the pseudo human rights NGOs. Besides there's no money in going after a regime in Tehran when you make your money denouncing America. |
| Posted by: Procopius2k 2009-12-20 07:01 |
| #2 The diagnosis came a little too late for the whistle-blowimg doctor. |
| Posted by: ed 2009-12-20 00:55 |
| #1 No mention of the rapes. |
| Posted by: tipover 2009-12-20 00:25 |