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| 2010-03-24 |
From a Mod: double entries on this article — posted the one with the earliest time |
| Posted by:wt |
| #13 BH6 speaks an uncomfortble truth. We are rapidly approaching a point where our Founders would hold us in contempt of we did not take action. We're at the tipping point. We can't take anymore. If Crap n Tax or (ill)legal immigration reform is crammed through, then we have, IMO, reached our breaking point. Prior to that, folks will need to come to terms with what action they are willing to undertake and form up with patriots of a like mind. Bood, Treasure and Sacred Honor. Our we up to the task if called upon? Active resistance can take many forms, some of which we see already. |
| Posted by: Rex Mundi 2010-03-24 22:53 |
| #12 I'm kind of torn on this. If history is any teacher, I believe the founders and esp Ben Franklin tried the "cooler heads" prevail path to work w/the system for a number of yrs. Eventually, these men, who imho were much superior to what I see running around D.C. today realized that system of early 1770s england could not be changed from within. I think the federalist republic system they envisioned and fought for is now broken or at least too corrupt to continue on w/what was it's intended purpose was. At some point we may have to go beyond what we all would like to do. If what we know to be is constitutional is thwarted or ignored by this gov't then I believe the people have to do what they have to do. I'd imagine our founders who went to the mat over a 3% tax increase would look at us w/some revulsion as a people - our apathy, lazyness and ignorance of the framework they set down. We (not the rantburg sense but in the U.S. sense) tolerate leaders who vote on bills they haven't read, propose laws that are blatantly un-constitutional, don't understand the constitution nor care to, don't hold themselves or their staffs to the same laws we are forced into, don't enforce our borders, distort the supremacy clause, the interstate commerce clause, the 2nd amendment, the 10th amendment, redistribute wealth, let citizens vote on the rights of other citizens, give bribes for votes, etc. I'd dare say the Red Coats had more class then these feckless traitors. |
| Posted by: Broadhead6 2010-03-24 22:07 |
| #11 no. the process is the same. The will has to be different. If you want to change the process, I'm not with you. Ours is the best, barring none. That doesn't say much for the others, but there it is. Work within the system if the other side does the same. If they don't (see: Acorn, Al-Gore) the rules change |
| Posted by: Frank G 2010-03-24 21:01 |
| #10 No matter how many times I flush the toilet, these pieces of democrat keep coming back to my doorstep with stinky legislation and philosophy. |
| Posted by: newc 2010-03-24 20:54 |
| #9 "Same as it ever was" Exactly. Why we've been steadily losing ground for the last 80 years. |
| Posted by: Iblis 2010-03-24 20:36 |
| #8 no. the answer is to review your critter's behavior, if you approve, vote them back in. If you have the cash, and other district's critters are bad, sprinkle dollar love on their opponent if worthy. Same as it ever was /quoting Talking Heads |
| Posted by: Frank G 2010-03-24 20:32 |
| #7 Well, what can I say. The Dems have our number, don't they? No matter how badly they abuse the process, no matter how lawless or criminal their actions, we always take it. Law and order and all that. Vote in 6 months. Have a token effort at repeal, then let it go and people just get used to the idea. The other side is counting on us to obey the rules no matter what they do. Guess they made a good bet. |
| Posted by: Iblis 2010-03-24 20:09 |
| #6 Ahem. If you think about shooting my Critter, Duncan Duane Hunter (as I've noted ad nauseum, see: "F-150"), you better come loaded, Iblis. He's a Marine, Dad's an Army vet, and his positions are what you (supposedly) want. So, if you want a shooting, I'm on his side. That whole "they should be shot" is stoopid. Rethink. Or think once, k? |
| Posted by: Frank G 2010-03-24 20:03 |
| #5 lblis: Unfortunately we've now reached the unhappy juncture where langauge such as the above should NOT BE USED used my friend. |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2010-03-24 19:55 |
| #4 Congress should be shot. All of them. The Dems who voted for this and the Reps who let it happen. |
| Posted by: Iblis 2010-03-24 19:49 |
| #3 If he's so very tired... perhaps he should retire.... |
| Posted by: CrazyFool 2010-03-24 14:58 |
| #2 I suspect we'll hear this one on Beck this evening. |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2010-03-24 14:44 |
| #1 Apparently he called WJR and complained that "he was tired". He probably was, and that is exactly why the unvarnished truth came out: his guard was down. |
| Posted by: Grenter, Protector of the Geats 2010-03-24 14:42 |