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Watts Up With That Responds to Global Warming Volcano Linkage Attempt
2010-04-17
Reply to: "Ice cap thaw may awaken Icelandic volcanoes"

Guest post by Steven Goddard


Scientific American has reported that global warming may cause an increase in volcanic eruptions, due to increased magma formation at lower pressures as glaciers melt.

This caught my attention because I used to work as a volcano researcher and igneous petrologist.
That report said that about 10 percent of Iceland's biggest ice cap, Vatnajokull, has melted since 1890 and the land nearby was rising about 25 millimetres (0.98 inch) a year, bringing shifts in geological stresses.

They estimated that the thaw had led to the formation of 1.4 cubic km (0.3 cubic mile) of magma deep below ground over the past century.

At high pressures such as under an ice cap, they reckon that rocks cannot expand to turn into liquid magma even if they are hot enough. "As the ice melts the rock can melt because the pressure decreases," she said. Sigmundsson said that monitoring of the Vatnajokull volcano since 2008 suggested that the 2008 estimate for magma generation was "probably a minimum estimate. It can be somewhat larger."
Interesting theory, but does it work quantitatively? Magmas, as with most solids, do show a direct relationship between the melting point and pressure. As the pressure increases, so does the melting point. (Ice is a noticeable exception to this, and shows an inverse relationship. The reason that people can ice skate is because the pressure under the blade creates a thin later of melted ice which lubricates the surface.

Below is a phase diagram of a basaltic magma similar to that found in Iceland, showing the relationship between temperature and pressure. The melting temperature does decrease at lower pressures. From 100 km depth to 0 km the melting point drops about 300°C. That is about 3°C / km. Ice is about one third as dense as basaltic magma, so the loss of 1 km of ice lowers the melting point by about 1C, or less than 0.1%.
The pic appears to have come from this link, I suggest the gentle readers here look either there, or at Watts Up With That for the picture in context in the article.
More precisely, this study from the Carnegie Geophysical Institute did an empirical measurement of the relationship for one basaltic mineral -- diposide. They found the relationship to be

Tm = 1391.5 + 0.01297 * P

Where Tm is the melting point in degrees C and P is the pressure in atmospheres. One atmosphere pressure is equal to about 10 metres of ice, so one additional metre of ice increases the melting point by about 0.0013°C. The loss of 100 metres of ice would therefore lower the melting point by about one tenth of a degree. The thickest ice in Iceland is only 500 meters thick, so complete loss of all ice would only alter the melting point by about 0.5°C, or less than 0.05%.

The geothermal gradient of the earth is typically about 40°C per km, so a 0.5°C change in temperature is equivalent to a depth change of about 20 metres. Near mid-ocean ridges this gradient is steeper, so the equivalent depth change in Iceland would be less than 20 metres. Is it credible that a 0.5°C decrease in the melting point could stimulate excess volcanic activity? Short answer -- no. Volcanic activity is caused by magma rising to the surface, not glaciers melting. However, the loss of the glaciers would reduce the amount of steam and ash generated. Ash is formed when magma is cooled and fractured by steam. So the loss of the glaciers would reduce the size of the steam/ash cloud and make the Iceland volcanoes behave more like Hawaii volcanoes.

In short, the loss of all ice in Iceland would make the volcanoes less destructive.
The thing that gets me is... all of the above analysis appears to have been totally unnecessary, even if it is correct; it should be possible to just look at the repeated eruptions of the volcano, in both warm periods and cold periods, to show that its eruptions are uncoupled in any way to temperature. Assuming, of course, that one admits that there have been temperature swings in the past, which the warmists don't. It's nice, and good physics, to know why it didn't happen, but if the general science establishment and media were honest, it would have been enough to know that it didn't happen like that to begin with in the past.
Posted by:Thing From Snowy Mountain

#3  Mr. Goddard has a nice (and long) way of saying, "ARE YOU CLOWNS NUTS?"

I've actually heard a person whom I thought was intelligent say that warmer ocean water (from Gerbil Wormening™) caused the earthquake/tsunami in southeast Asia a couple of years ago.

Boggle (on so many levels).
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut   2010-04-17 23:26  

#2  The thing that gets me is... all of the above analysis appears to have been totally unnecessary, even if it is correct;

When you can come at the problem from a different direction and still get the same answer, it suggests you have not overlooked something and may actually be correct.
Posted by: SteveS   2010-04-17 15:20  

#1  Last good volcano blast (Mt. Pinatubo, IIRC) we had, the ejected particulates had a noticeable cooling effect. And lovely sunsets, besides. Why do the warmenists hate beauty? And science?
Posted by: SteveS   2010-04-17 15:11  

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