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Bin Laden had 'no clue' about Sept. 11 retaliation
2010-04-27
Osama bin Laden had no idea the U.S. would hit al-Qaida as hard as it has since the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks, a former bin Laden associate tells WTOP in an exclusive interview.

"I'm 100 percent sure they had no clue about what was going to happen," says Noman Benotman, who was head of the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group in the summer of 2000. "What happened after the 11th of September was beyond their imagination, " says Benotman, who adds that al-Qaida thought the U.S. was a "paper tiger."

Sitting on the floor at bin Laden's compound in Kandahar, Afghanistan during a meeting the summer before the attacks, Benotman shocked bin Laden and more than 200 other international jihadist leaders by telling the al-Qaida leader his jihadi strategy was "a total failure."

Benotman, a highly regarded associate of bin Laden's at the time, says he surprised him again by rebuffing a plea for help. "He asked for my help. Bin Laden asked me personally, you know. I responded immediately on the spot ...'No. I'm not going to help you.'" Bin Laden was stunned. "Because he used to like to sit next to me, you know. My right hand side," Benotman says. The seating location meant he was someone bin Laden respected.

Benotman says he spoke frankly because his reputation allowed him to. "I've spent time in the front line engaging with the enemy more than bin Laden and [Ayman Al-]Zawahiri and the entire group of al-Qaida."

Zawahiri laughed when he warned those at the 2000 meeting that the U.S. response would be swift, hard and long, Benotman says. Benotman attributes al-Qaida's overconfident attitude to the United States' response to al-Qaida attacks on its in embassies in Nairobi, Kenya and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania in 1998. Zawahiri, according to Benotman, expected only a missile attack. "When they attacked the embassies in East Africa, they estimated the U.S. launched 75 cruise missiles and eight people got killed. So they said this time, maybe they will launch 200 and they laughed about this."

Benotman's assessment is backed up by a former Central Intelligence Agency officer, who was active in the fight against al-Qaida. The officer, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, says "several captured terrorists have said publicly that al-Qaida never expected the towers to fall. Their goal was to frighten people and impact the U.S. economy, so they really didn't plan for the massive response the U.S. launched."

Bin Laden got more than one warning, says Benotman. "I told him several times before the Sept. 11th attacks that if you do this, the U.S. is going to retaliate in a very harsh way. At least twice I reminded him about the serious orders he was given by Mullah Omar, the leader of the Afghan Taliban to stop fighting the U.S., and he disobeyed the order."

Now living in London and openly campaigning against organizations like al-Qaida, Benotman - according to some - is simply trying to avoid going to jail in his native Libya. "I would like to believe that bin Laden was shocked and dismayed by what we did after 9/11, but I come hard up against an awful lot of evidence that that's exactly what he wanted," says Michael Scheuer, former head of the CIA's Osama bin Laden unit. Scheuer questions whether Benotman is speaking out freely. "Clearly, Libyan leader Muammar Qaddafi is holding a hammer over his head," Scheuer says, noting some of Benotman's ex-LIFG colleagues are in prison and Benotman still has relatives in Libya.

Benotman, who still believes in the commitment Jihad requires, laughs at the notion he's afraid of being arrested. "I'm not afraid of the Americans or any other country. My speaking out is a conscious decision and it's based on my entire experience and understanding of jihadism." Not only does Benotman reject al-Qaida's ideology, but he says "killing civilians is a crime. I don't care if it's Jews, Christians, Muslims or anyone. It's a crime and we shouldn't help them (al Qaida)."
Posted by:ryuge

#21  Setting aside the implausibility of the tale for a while, I have long pondered a peculiar anecdote alleged to have taken place in the July before 9-11. It was originally published in Le Figaro.

Osama is believed to have long had kidney problems.

At the time he could travel pretty freely around the Middle East, and while he was at the "American Hospital" in Dubai receiving about 10 days worth of care, he was allegedly visited for a length of time by a CIA man who knew him personally.

The CIA had been in contact with him since 1979.

What was said between them is unknown, but at this point, the story usually wanders off into conspiracy theories. However, if you just take the story at face value, there may actually be some possibilities that are not entirely laughable.

The first is that he had not yet been cut off from his important family in Saudi Arabia. This alone might have been a good enough reason for a contact, the idea of cultivating someone who might eventually be influential.

If, again, if the story is true, bin Laden should go down in history as being like William the Silent, listening to someone yabber at him for an hour while saying to himself, "I know something you don't know."

http://www.emperors-clothes.com/misc/lefigaro.htm
Posted by: Anonymoose   2010-04-27 20:48  

#20  JOE!12... idk i jus dk

o/Nittany!
Posted by: Shipman   2010-04-27 19:54  

#19  *** cough *** cough ***... D **** NGED HOWEVER-YOU-PRONOUNCE-IT ICELAND VOLCANO ASH!
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2010-04-27 19:33  

#18  As one whom helped OSAMA fight + defeat the Soviets in the Afghan war, I was going to post a mighty "YEAH-H-H RI-I-I-G-H-T", but methinks I'll instead go wid **** Cough **** cough ****..@
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2010-04-27 19:31  

#17  Stop thinking of the war as being between us and a bunch of guys in caves and start thinking of it as being between us and a bunch of guys who occasionally _fund_ a bunch of guys in caves, and things don't look too good, IMHO.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain   2010-04-27 18:45  

#16  in the sense that only an intellectual could be such a retard.

Indeed. Higher intelligence simply means that one gets to stupid faster. Carefully choosing the starting premises matters.
Posted by: trailing wife   2010-04-27 18:37  

#15  "I would like to believe that bin Laden was shocked and dismayed by what we did after 9/11, but I come hard up against an awful lot of evidence that that's exactly what he wanted," says Michael Scheuer, former head of the CIA's Osama bin Laden unit. Scheuer questions whether Benotman is speaking out freely. "Clearly, Libyan leader Muammar Qaddafi is holding a hammer over his head," Scheuer says, noting some of Benotman's ex-LIFG colleagues are in prison and Benotman still has relatives in Libya.

Michael Scheuer is the guy who recommended pinprick attacks against al Qaeda, on the premise that if we hit them hard, they'll only hit back harder. If Scheuer had been the decision maker, the US would have mounted a token response to 9/11. Unfortunately for al Qaeda, Scheuer was not in charge. Scheuer's whole schtick is to say that Westerners need to repent and avoid further antagonizing jihadists, rather than retaliate against jihadist attacks. He is the definition of an intellectual, in the sense that only an intellectual could be such a retard.
Posted by: Zhang Fei   2010-04-27 16:37  

#14  I understood they Assassinated the leader of the Northern alliance to prevent the alliance from being effectively used agains them by the US. They certainly suspected a response and tried to blunt it prior to the attacks.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2010-04-27 16:07  

#13  "No man". "Be not man".

Maybe I'm a little obtuse here, but if the guy is using a pseudonym, how is it that he can be "openly campaigning against organizations like al-Qaida"?
Posted by: lex   2010-04-27 13:45  

#12  So terminally stupid they came to believe their own propaganda.

Quite common, that.
Posted by: Bulldog   2010-04-27 12:29  

#11  Remember, the Soviet Union more or less had Afghanistan under control when they ran out of money to fight the war.

Yes.

And also that we began supplying the Mahajadeen with stinger missiles and they started knocking out Rooskie helicopters and tanks.
Posted by: JohnQC   2010-04-27 12:13  

#10  Like a degree in history from Yale? Have to agree with tipover, it may have been a more calculated risk than many would like to admit especially if money cheerleaders to plead their case - being called a paper tiger may have been a compliment...paper cat maybe from their perspective. Fortunately had a real Wildcat in office (that is the real tiger was not unchained for a number of reasons).
Posted by: swksvolFF   2010-04-27 11:46  

#9  Yes, Bin Laden, as the article said, thought we would strike back, but not with tens of thousands of troops.
I believe we got sucker-punched on 9/11. Fact is, that these guys mean us ill, but they aren't very smart.
It's just too bad we didn't tell the guy ourselves (I believe he's dead), so we could put his head on a pike as a warning to others.
Posted by: Mizzou Mafia   2010-04-27 11:43  

#8  I think the headline writer is mistaken; I think that Bin Laden thought we'd strike back, but without being able to definately secure the country, and having to pay one enemy or another for the privelige of even supplying the troops there, in a distant landlocked country, it would bankrupt us.

I don't know if he's entirely correct, but we already have the American Gorbachev, and he's started up the trillion dollar deficits...

Remember, the Soviet Union more or less had Afghanistan under control when they ran out of money to fight the war.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain   2010-04-27 11:30  

#7  Bin Laden had 30-40 years of history to base his assumptions on. From Carter on. Bush had to be a nasty surprise.
Posted by: tipover   2010-04-27 11:05  

#6  "an" Ivy School Liberal, grammer!

Don't worry about grammar here, 746. Folks type fast and make mistakes. Usually, the folks who worry about grammar are trolls who can't find problems with the logic so they pounce on the only thing they can find. It's just a distraction and doesn't change the message.
Posted by: gorb   2010-04-27 10:59  

#5  al-Qaida thought the U.S. was a "paper tiger."

It would have been difficult to come to any other conclusion as the result of the tepid response by the Clinton administration to previous terrorist's attacks. A conclusion might be that the harder we hit them the better. A corollary: Jar the living crap out of them.
Posted by: JohnQC   2010-04-27 10:47  

#4  "an" Ivy School Liberal, grammer!
Posted by: 746   2010-04-27 10:09  

#3  "What happened after the 11th of September was beyond their imagination"

Huh? Where did this come from? The entire idea was to get the USA to hit back, hard. Then, the Muslim world would see that America was killing the faithful, and unite under Al Qaida's banner to form a new pan-Umma Caliphate. This new union would then proceed to acquire nuclear weapons and use them.
Posted by: gromky   2010-04-27 10:00  

#2  ...al-Qaida thought the U.S. was a "paper tiger.

Not under a Texan.

Under a Ivy school liberal.... yes.
Posted by: DarthVader   2010-04-27 09:56  

#1  "I'm 100 percent sure they had no clue about what was going to happen,"..

File under "Hold my beer, watch me do this".
Posted by: Procopius2k   2010-04-27 09:46  

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