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| Federal Judge In Wisconsin Rules Open Carrying Disorderly |
| 2010-05-12 |
| GCO member Jesus Gonzalez' federal lawsuit in Wisconsin was dismissed after the judge granted the defendants' motion for summary judgment. In his lawsuit, Gonzalez challenged his arrest in two separate incidents for disorderly conduct when openly carrying in retail stores. The court found no specific disorderly conduct on Gonzalez' part, but went on to observe: “No reasonable person would dispute that walking into a retail store openly carrying a firearm is highly disruptive conduct which is virtually certain to create a disturbance. This is so because when employees and shoppers in retail stores see a person carrying a lethal weapon, they are likely to be frightened and possibly even panicky. Many employees and shoppers are likely to think that the person with the gun is either deranged or about to commit a felony or both. Further, it is almost certain that someone will call the police. And when police respond to a “man with a gun' call, they have no idea what the armed individual's intentions are. The volatility in such a situation could easily lead to someone being seriously injured or killed.' |
| Posted by: Anonymoose |
| #13 Don't they have something better to do than fiddling while rome burns? Like asking Obailout for more money or packing to move to Arizona? |
| Posted by: gorb 2010-05-12 23:54 |
| #12 Califorinia has a bill going thru right now against open carry...it passed in committee already.. |
| Posted by: crazyhorse 2010-05-12 23:34 |
| #11 It appears that the Judges first name is "Lynn", most probably a female, maybe that's why people are "likely..panicky". Of course this doesn't apply the the regulars here, none of whom would appear "panicky" at the mere sight of a legal weapon. Most likely they would know how to use it better than most I would opine. |
| Posted by: illeagle 2010-05-12 21:36 |
| #10 this "Judge" should be immediately disbarred and arrested as he has violated the very laws he swore to uphold. |
| Posted by: Redneck Jim 2010-05-12 16:54 |
| #9 Dear Judge. The 2nd says "bear arms". not "have arms." |
| Posted by: Ebbater Hatfield7398 2010-05-12 14:38 |
| #8 I'll bet nobody in or around these retail stores was thinking about robbing this guy. |
| Posted by: Keeney 2010-05-12 13:42 |
| #7 The article didn't go on to say if this guy had a permit to carry I don't know about Wisconsin, but in VA there is no permit needed for open carry. The open carry laws in VA are in many ways less restrictive than those governing concealed carry (which requires a permit). I imagine that many other states have similar laws to VA (28 other states honor VA concealed carry permits). |
| Posted by: Keeney 2010-05-12 13:40 |
| #6 This would make a great Wisconsin Supreme Court case if he could find some pro-bono legal support. |
| Posted by: Captain Thaise5882 2010-05-12 13:20 |
| #5 The article didn't go on to say if this guy had a permit to carry |
| Posted by: Mr. Bill 2010-05-12 10:56 |
| #4 I recently saw a couple of middle aged .... fellows.... out for dinner at a local resturant. One of them was wearing a small automatic pistol, with matching black cell phone holster and belt. Helps to accessorize. |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2010-05-12 09:36 |
| #3 I was talking with a very liberal woman who had recently been to Arizona and was appalled to see a woman with a shoulder rig carrying openly in public. I also remember a woman (similar type) who we were having lunch with in Kentucky a few years back. She just about freaked out when she saw a man wearing a pistol on his hip. She wondered if we should do something and I said, no he is most likely legal and/or law enforcement (He was just eating his lunch, minding his own business). There is mass hysteria, usually amongst the liberal element of our society with regards to firearms. |
| Posted by: JohnQC 2010-05-12 09:29 |
| #2 Having said that there are people out there who are so terrified that they freak out even at the sight of one -.. CF, likely same reaction to the first part of your comment if the judge showed up in a Wymen's Studies Depart. of some colleges, even if concealed. |
| Posted by: Procopius2k 2010-05-12 08:42 |
| #1 So we should assume this Judge is a serial-rapist right? After all he has all the equipment (assuming he's male, and fully equipped). If the weapon is holstered, there is no need for anyone to panic. Only the media's hyperventilating creates the false impression that the weapon is going to jump out and start shooting people at random. Having said that there are people out there who are so terrified that they freak out even at the sight of one - even holstered. But that is not a reason to deny someone's 2nd amendment rights. |
| Posted by: CrazyFool 2010-05-12 00:17 |