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Medvedev pays tribute to Ukrainian victims of Stalin famine
2010-05-18
Dmitri Medvedev lit a candle yesterday in memory of the victims of a Soviet-era famine that killed millions of people in Ukraine, as he moved to strengthen Russia's ties with its new pro-Kremlin President.

Visiting a monument to what Ukrainians call the Holodomor, the Russian President placed the candle at the foot of a statue of a young girl clutching a sheaf of wheat.

At least four million people died in what is described by some — Viktor Yushchenko, the former President, among them — as a genocide perpetrated by the regime of Joseph Stalin in 1932-33.
It was a bloody lot more than 4 million. Some of my family were among them.
That accusation infuriated the Kremlin, with Viktor Yanukovych, Ukraine's new President who accompanied Mr Medvedev yesterday, being quick to countermand it. He called the famine a common tragedy suffered by people across the Soviet Union.

The gesture marked the start of Mr Medvedev's first formal state visit to Ukraine, sealed with an agreement between the two countries on the their common border, almost 20 years after the collapse of the Soviet Union.

Posted by:lotp

#7  quite a lot has been revealed since Robert Conquest book and also his figures include more than just this. His figure for this is 5 million.

The wikipedia has a fairly detailed discussion on the figures.
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The results based on scientific methods obtained prior to the opening of former Soviet archives also varied widely but the range was narrower: for example, 2.5 million (Volodymyr Kubiyovych),[42] 4.8 million (Vasyl Hryshko)[42] and 5 million (Robert Conquest).[44]

One modern calculation that uses demographic data including that available from recently opened Soviet archives narrows the losses to about 3.2 million or, allowing for the lack of precise data, 3 million to 3.5 million.[2][42][45][46][47]



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor


Posted by: Bernardz   2010-05-18 12:21  

#6  Robert Conquest in The Harvest of Sorrow: Soviet Collectivization and the Terror-Famine estimates total deaths at 14.5 million. There is no news here. Not only was it the Ukranians but other minorities and the kulak class who knew about private property and efficient farming. Duranty's shame has been public and ignored for decades. Shameful.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2010-05-18 07:00  

#5  this was the famine which was the subject of Walter Duranty's false reports in the NYTimes which subsequently won a Publitzer.
Posted by: lord garth   2010-05-18 06:39  

#4  This incident will be all over NBC, CBS, ABC, NPR, PBS, CNN,.........

Not.
Posted by: no mo uro   2010-05-18 06:08  

#3  Everyone sing!

We did it before and
we can do it again, Hey!
we can do it again, Hey!
we can do it again
...
Posted by: Slereling Panda1329   2010-05-18 05:55  

#2  A natural famine is one thing. A deliberate man-made Famine is another.

I've heard that it wasn't that there wasn't enough food - plenty was grown - but that the soviets collected it all and sold it (to the west).

All to punish the Ukraine for resisting Stalin.
Posted by: CrazyFool   2010-05-18 01:31  

#1  He called the famine a common tragedy suffered by people across the Soviet Union.

True.
Posted by: Bugs Spealing3182   2010-05-18 01:19  

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