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| Abortion Clinic Doctor Infects 44 Women With Hepatitis C | |
| 2010-06-01 | |
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| Posted by:Grunter |
| #10 Us Catholics say Abortion creates 2 victims - the aborted, and the mother. One dead, one wounded. I've worked as a volunteer with Rachel's Vineyard, but only in support. The emotional and moral consequences endured by women are crushing. Yet the abortionists walk away without a care for the damage they have done. For me, all the above arguments (in the previous post) are rational, but seeing the evidence first-hand of the damage done to these women by the abortion industry has me utterly convinced of the evil of the act and the moral wrong of those who support them. |
| Posted by: OldSpook 2010-06-01 23:36 |
| #9 I agree with Beldar: you're (deliberately?) ignoring the question - what's the matter, scared to answer? Is human life so meaningless to you as to be destroyed for mere convenience? Frank G, what about the LIFE? You need to be alive to have health be a concern, its a prerequisite. That argument in favor of abortion is a pretty piss poor attempt at moral equivalence between a physically healthy woman and the destruction of a human life for her convenience. The health of the mother? Of course that's a concern. Women who have elective abortions tend to have worse health AFTER the abortion. See Elizabeth Ring Cassidy and Ian Gentles, Women's Health after Abortion: The Medical and Psychological Evidence [Toronto: de Veber Institute for Bioethics] for a plethora of research indicating increased mental issues, premature delivery and complications in subsequent pregnancies, higher instance of STDs post abortion, and a whole host of troubles. You see, your error is assuming that the abortion is lower risk than pregnancy. Studies indicate that simply is not true in the case of induced elective abortions. Then there is the moral aspect: Do you agree that deliberately destroying an innocent defenseless human life for the profit or convenience of another person to be evil? If not, then there is no discussion - you can go stand with Pol Pot, Stalin, Hitler, etc, in hteir own little hell of justification of that very thing. Now lets look at the science Is it alive? Yes, it meets the biological qualification of "alive" So its a life. Is that human? Yes, DNA says it is, and nothing less. So it is a Human Life. Is it defenseless? Yes. It is incapable of resisting effectively. So it is a Defenseless Human Life. Is it "innocent"? Yes, it has not had the opportunity to make any moral decisions, nor has it become a threat to the physical life of the mother (Remember we are talking elective abortions, not medically necessary). So it is an Innocent Defenseless Human Life. No religion needed. Even a libertarian or Objectivist can see this - nobody has a *right* to choose to initiate deadly force against another that is an innocent and defenseless one. Elective abortion is the destruction of a defenseless innocent HUMAN LIFE no matter how you try to slither away from the basic facts of the matter. As for the Hep C, not surprised. Abortion "clinics" have attempted and exempted themselves from normal sanitary procedures. They claim "political persecution" if you try to impose regulations or an inspection regime that would be minimal for normal invasive procedure clinics. Abortion clinics need to be regulated, inspected and forced to keep proper medical records. THier records shoudl be reviewed regularly, to show the health consequences of abortion, and to hold the abortionists responsible for the consequences of their work on the women. |
| Posted by: OldSpook 2010-06-01 23:32 |
| #8 of course, someone with so much concern for the health of the fetus will be equally concerned with the health of the mother. Surprised? |
| Posted by: Frank G 2010-06-01 22:43 |
| #7 What is it with Hepatitis C? We had a woman here in the Springs that infected some 25 people with the disease while working in a surgical ward. She was literally stealing pain medication and replacing it with sterile water. With that kind of infection rate, I'd be checking the "hospital" closely for other problems, such as back-door supplying some people with drugs and other supplies. |
| Posted by: Old Patriot 2010-06-01 22:20 |
| #6 Besoeker - I think that should get the Snark of the day. Love it. |
| Posted by: CrazyFool 2010-06-01 17:44 |
| #5 Read the article. This is just the start. They still have "thousands" of women that need to be tested. Also, indications are that the infections are not accidental. Abortion clinics are run so poorly and with such little regard for the law that they would long since have been abolished just on public health grounds, but for the whole "abortion" controversy. |
| Posted by: Iblis 2010-06-01 17:28 |
| #4 Abortion Clinic Doctor Infects 44 Women With Hepatitis C On the bright side, living with Hepatitis C is much better than being aborted. |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2010-06-01 14:58 |
| #3 Consider what company you keep with your point of view. You are asking the wrong question. Is that on purpose to avoid the most important and moral aspect? Is human life so meaningless as to be destroyed for mere convenience? Or, as you seem to be saying, is it OK for "those kinds" of human lives to be destroyed to limit their numbers? Herr Himmler would agree with you, g(r)omgoru. |
| Posted by: No I am the other Beldar 2010-06-01 14:09 |
| #2 You really want the kind of people who have such a poor impulse control to propagate themselves, Beldar? |
| Posted by: g(r)omgoru 2010-06-01 12:20 |
| #1 The abortion industry fights regulation and uses "rights" as an excuse to escape normal health care restrictions. Even veterinarian offices have more health regulations and restrictions than the politically connected factories for the destruction of human life. Elective abortion must be stopped. It is a moral evil to deliberately destroy a defenseless innocent human life for the mere convenience of someone else and the profit of the doctors and clinics. |
| Posted by: No I am the other Beldar 2010-06-01 10:51 |