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French Muslim Council warns government on veil ban
2010-06-04
France's official Muslim council has warned the government not to expect it to impose a planned ban on full face veils for women that legal experts argue will be unconstitutional and police predict will be unenforceable.

Mohammed Moussaoui, head of the French Council of the Muslim Faith (CFCM), said his group opposed the full veil and would try to convince the tiny minority of veiled women that it was not a religious obligation and was out of place in France. But Muslim leaders could not act as agents of the state during a six-month "mediation period" during which veiled women will be stopped and informed about the law but not fined.

The draft law, due to be passed this autumn, bans wearing full veils in public. After the mediation period, veiled women must pay a 150 euro ($182.8) fine or take "citizenship lessons" while anyone found forcing them to veil risks a 15,000 euro fine. "It will be very hard to apply," Moussaoui told journalists Thursday. "The CFCM has said it's ready to work for this, but not as someone mandated by the state. It's the duty of society to shoulder its responsibility for the mediation."

Justice Minister Michele Alliot-Marie has said she would depend on the police, the CFCM and local civic associations to convince covered women their veils violated French values. Police unions have warned that stopping veiled women in the street could lead to chaotic scenes and protests. "There will be lots of refusals, it will degenerate into insult and outrage, they'll be detained and families will gather outside the police station," Yannick Danio of the Unite SGP-Police union told the newspaper Le Monde. Other critics of the ban have said radical Muslims might provoke such confrontations to extend their influence.

France's Council of State, a top legal advisory body, has twice warned that a ban would probably violate the French constitution and the European Convention on Human Rights, but President Nicolas Sarkozy has decided to push ahead with it. "Some politicians see in the veil a provocation to the authority of the state," Moussaoui said. "But if the Council of State, the Constitutional Court or the European Court of Human Rights censure any law that is passed, the state's authority will also be weakened."

Moussaoui made clear the CFCM, which represents 86 percent of mosques in France, opposed the full face veil, "Nobody accepts it... A veiled woman cannot have a normal social life." But it also opposed the ban, which it thought would force veiled women to stay at home and not tackle the root question of why they want to isolate themselves from French society. Asked how the CFCM could convince women to remove their burqas and niqabs, he said the fact that women had to uncover their faces to perform some rituals on the haj pilgrimage to Mecca showed full veils were not required in Islam. "How can a practice forbidden on the haj become obligatory outside of it?" he asked.
Posted by:ryuge

#3  Let us hope, 'moose, let us hope.

NS is right: this is a make or break moment for France and for Europe.
Posted by: lotp   2010-06-04 19:25  

#2  France has really put Voltaire on the line with this. To back down means to renounce the secular state, and no way are the French going to do that.
Posted by: Anonymoose   2010-06-04 19:22  

#1  Once to every man and nation, comes the moment to decide,
In the strife of truth with falsehood, for the good or evil side;
Some great cause, some great decision, offering each the bloom or blight,
And the choice goes by forever, Â’twixt that darkness and that light.

Then to side with truth is noble, when we share her wretched crust,
Ere her cause bring fame and profit, and Â’tis prosperous to be just;
Then it is the brave man chooses while the coward stands aside,
Till the multitude make virtue of the faith they had denied.

By the light of burning martyrs, Christ, Thy bleeding feet we track,
Toiling up new CalvÂ’ries ever with the cross that turns not back;
New occasions teach new duties, time makes ancient good uncouth,
They must upward still and onward, who would keep abreast of truth.

Though the cause of evil prosper, yet the truth alone is strong;
Though her portion be the scaffold, and upon the throne be wrong;
Yet that scaffold sways the future, and behind the dim unknown,
Standeth God within the shadow, keeping watch above His own.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2010-06-04 18:30  

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