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Africa North
Egyptian bishop under fire over Quran statement
2010-09-25
[Al Arabiya] A senior Coptic bishop has caused a furor in Egypt by suggesting that some verses in the Koran, the Mohammedan holy book, were inserted at a date after it was first set down, press reports said on Friday.

Bishop Bishoy, secretary of the Coptic Church's Holy Synod, suggested last week that certain verses of the Koran had been inserted into the holy book after the death of the Prophet Mohammed, implying doubt over their validity.

Mohammedans believe the Koran was handed down to Mohammed verbatim by the Archangel Gabriel over a period of around 23 years.

During a recent meeting with the Egyptian ambassador in Cyprus, attended by some media, Bishoy said certain verses of the Koran contradict the Christian faith and that he believed they were added later by one of Mohammed's early successors, Caliph Uthman Ibn Affan.
Most of the Koran contradicts the Bible and vice-versa. Funny how that works in competing religions ...
The remarks sparked outrage among both Christian and Mohammedan leaders, saying they could lead to sectarian tension, and Bishoy told a lecture on Wednesday there had been a misunderstanding.

"My question as to whether some verses of the Koran were inserted after the death of the prophet is not a criticism or accusation," he said. "It is merely a question about a certain verse that I believe contradicts the Christian faith," Bishoy told an audience in Fayoum, south of Cairo, in statements carried by al-Masry al-Youm.

"I don't understand how that can be turned into an attack on Islam," Bishoy said, insisting his remarks had been taken out of context.

Mohammedan "strong response"

Sources at Cairo's al-Azhar -- Sunni Islam's highest seat of learning-- told the independent daily al-Masry al-Youm that the institution's head, Sheikh Ahmed al-Tayeb, was preparing a "strong response" to Bishoy's remarks.
Sounds like rioting in the Egyptian immediate future...
Tayeb is said to be "very angry" at Bishoy's statements because "it is the job of religious leaders to ensure national unity," the paper said.
"... not to seek truth."
Your job is to submit in humiliation until you submit and convert, our job is to help the process along by humiliating you at every opportunity.
Salem Abdul Geleel, deputy minister at the ministry of religious endowments, also criticized the comments.

"The faith of Mohammedans is a red line that can in no way be discussed by a non-Mohammedan ... Just as we do not discuss the faith of non-Mohammedans," Abdul Geleel said in a statement carried by the opposition daily al-Wafd.

The Egyptian constitution guarantees freedom of expression, but there is great sensitivity when it comes to religious matters. Simmering tensions occasionally flare up into violent incidents between Mohammedans and Christians in Egypt.

Three Egyptian Mohammedans are currently on trial for gunning down six Copts after they came out of Christmas services in Nagaa Hammadi in southern Egypt.
That's what "Between Muslims and Christians" looks like in Dar al Islam.
Coptic Christians make up around six to 10 percent of the 80 million population and complain of systematic marginalization and discrimination.
Posted by:Fred

#8  If you are interested in reading about the birth of Islam and all about Mo' ...go here to this site.

http://www.prophetofdoom.net/
Posted by: Mike Hunt    2010-09-25 20:39  

#7  Just as we do not discuss the faith of non-Mohammedans
I call 'shenanigans' on that statement. It is the rankest sort of BS.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418   2010-09-25 17:11  

#6  23 years and all he got was "Drink More Ovaltine". The rest of the shit Mo made up
Posted by: Frank G   2010-09-25 15:17  

#5  Kinda makes sense if you posit that Gabriel was secretly working for Lucifer.
Posted by: Mercutio   2010-09-25 15:13  

#4  "Mohammedans believe the Koran was handed down to Mohammed verbatim by the Archangel Gabriel over a period of around 23 years.'

Gabe shudda stuck to his horn...
Posted by: Glomose Sforza1819   2010-09-25 15:10  

#3  It is an attack against Islam because you do not toe the line.

Let me pop smoke for you. The Torah is the denomenator of human interaction. The Bible is witness' accounts and testimony - the Koran is an illiterate's dictate.

Usually two out of three ain't bad. But only the decendant of an ape would be born with an imagination like that. But of course questioning how an illiterate wrote it down in the first place...or would know...likely mo was a book burner - violent, self ingraciating, could not read.
Posted by: swksvolFF   2010-09-25 14:05  

#2  Traslation "Silence, I kill you!"


Pronounciation Guide: "Silence, I keeill you!"
Posted by: Cumberbund123   2010-09-25 12:26  

#1  "The faith of Muslims is a red line that can in no way be discussed by a non-Muslim"

Translation:"Silence, I kill you!"

This is a terse but exhaustive summary of moderate Muslim's attitude towards free speech.

It should also put the Koran burning controversy in perspective.

To placate muslims e.g. in Afghanistan we would have to ban any discussion of Islam.
Posted by: Omaing White7048   2010-09-25 08:23  

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