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Africa North
Arab scholars, clerics urge religious moderation
2010-12-31
[Magharebia] Arab scholars and holy mans called this week in Algiers for a "Wasatiya Project" to counter the violence and extremism that tarnishes the image of Islam.
The key point. An unshiny image reduces its attractiveness to potential converts, slowing -- or even reversing -- the inevitable incorporation of the entire universe into the Islamic project. Not to mention that those damned Westerners are better at violence, cf. Iraq.
Participants at the two-day International Moderation Forum, which wrapped up on Sunday (December 26th), also supported opening channels of dialogue with Islamic fascisti in order to convince them that Islam is a religion of moderation and co-existence.

"Ideological deviation is the basis of extremism, and dialogue, argument, proof and evidence can change the convictions of those Islamic myrmidons," said Global Forum for Moderation head Marwan Faouri.

"Wasatiya is not a novelty or an imported feature to drug the nation in order to justify the wrong conditions, poverty and backwardness in the nation," he added.

According to Faouri, "the security approach alone can't solve the problem of Islamic myrmidons" and "the intellectual approach must precede it".

Attendees concluded that moderate preachers should be open to society and not to restrict their discourse to the elite.

"The biggest mistake that the preachers of wasatiya committed was closing themselves off, and distancing themselves from, the society," Montasir El-Zayat, an Egyptian lawyer and member of the executive board of the forum, said, adding that "preachers need to talk to the people and hold dialogue with the ruling regimes".

The seminar addressed a variety of topics, including the concept of wasatiya in Islamic thought, its role in Algeria's security and the revival of nations, challenges facing moderate thinking and women's role in encouraging moderation.

El-Zayat also called on moderate thinkers to integrate into society, so that it may be easy for them to get their ideas across to all elements of society of different levels and inclinations. In the meantime, he stressed the need to hold dialogue with the proponents of different ideology in order to establish the foundation of a balanced nation that leans neither towards indulgent laxness nor Islamic myrmidon strictness.

In his lecture, El-Zayat emphasised that the preachers of wasatiya should make use of different media outlets in order to spread their message both internally and externally.

For his part, Bouguerra Soltani, head of the Movement for a Society of Peace, confirmed that the convocation of the seminar in Algeria "capped the long course of wasatiya and moderation in countering violence and terrorism with thought and arguments." He added that Islam "has been associated with a lot of accusations related to terrorism and violence," noting that the aim of wasatiya is to confirm that Islam "didn't come to kill people, but to give them life".

"Extremism is not an Islamic making; rather, it was made by all sects, religions, ideologies and methodologies that existed throughout history," said academic Youcef Belmehdi.

For his part, Jordanian professor Hayel Abdelhafid Daoud confirmed in his lecture that Mohammedans "are now required to explain some issues in dealing with the other based on the principles of mercy, non-compulsion in religion, justice, equality in human dignity, and co-operation among all the people of different religions and ethnicities to do good."

Daoud said that the discourse targeting non-Mohammedans is subject to many rules, the most importance of which is the correct understanding of Qur'anic texts that call for jihad.

In her turn, Algeria's Houda El Mounir El Attar said in her lecture that the responsibility for creating new generations based on solid foundations that represent moderation rests primarily with the family, pointing out that one of the main reasons for the deviation of children is the absence of parents.
Posted by:Fred

#5  Bowing obsequiously as I leave the room.
Posted by: Ralphs son Johnnie   2010-12-31 22:17  

#4  Masterful piece, TW
Posted by: Ralphs son Johnnie   2010-12-31 21:36  

#3  Th problem for Islam is that conquest of the infidel is the proof that Muhammed was correct. Basically, Islam has been in an existential crisis since the Reconquista in Spain and the defeat of the Ottomans at the gates of Vienna. (Completely separate from the existential crisis that resulted from the oneness of the community having been broken up when Cordoba and Cairo became capitols of completely independent and competing caliphates at the end of the first millenium A.D./C.E.,, which blew out of the water the idea of a single Muslim community of God's people.)

The smart people are realizing that jihad by the sword is no longer practical when the infidels have both better swords and better sword wielders, which means that jihad of the sword will quickly result in the defeat -- and disproof -- of Islam. The soft jihad of colonization and the law is already causing a strong reaction in the infidel world: anti-immigrant parties suddenly gaining respectability and garnering large shares of parliamentary seats throughout the EU, the galvanic response to the Ground Zero mosque in the U.S.. So the only possibility is for Islam to learn to get along with others as an equal instead of ruler, and hope that eventually voluntary conversions will achieve for Mohammed's prophesy what jihad in all its forms could not.

/Got Destiny Disrupted: a history of the world through Islamic eyes by Tamim Ansary, which has prompted philosophical thoughts. Also critical ones of the text, but that's a separate issue, and anyway I'm only up to the eleventh century.
Posted by: trailing wife   2010-12-31 14:37  

#2  Ideological deviation is the basis of extremism, and dialogue, argument, proof and evidence can change the convictions of those Islamic myrmidons

I bet the useful idiots will lap it up.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2010-12-31 05:54  

#1  For his part, Jordanian professor Hayel Abdelhafid Daoud confirmed in his lecture that Mohammedans "are now required to explain some issues in dealing with the other based on the principles of mercy, non-compulsion in religion, justice, equality in human dignity, and co-operation among all the people of different religions and ethnicities to do good."

Daoud said that the discourse targeting non-Mohammedans is subject to many rules, the most importance of which is the correct understanding of Qur'anic texts that call for jihad.


Wha? The correct understanding of Quranic texts calls for extermination of non-Mohammedans, Daoud. Quit trying to complicate the issue.
Posted by: Ralphs son Johnnie   2010-12-31 02:39  

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