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| Will Obama repeat Carter's Shah betrayal? |
| 2011-01-29 |
| Posted by:ryuge |
| #14 I'm sort of hoping the Egyptian authorities go Whiskey Foxtrot on the bunch, and round up the MB for some special love. Otherwise, things get too hot and th MB take over, Israel may have to let the birds fly. Not that I would care. Scorched Earth and a few dozen Muzzie cities glowing might take the starch out of Islam. Who knows, maybe a guidance error might render a particular cesspool inop as well. We can pray. |
| Posted by: Secret Asian Man 2011-01-29 23:39 |
| #13 I'm not so sure Mubaraks cooked yet. He sent his family to safety, and considering what happened to his predecessor that might be for the best. There are reports the Death Toll is MUCH higher, and now protesters are fighting looters without intervention. It seems to me rather than risk themselves, the authorities are just letting everyone slug it out when they can. Mubarak might be gone in september, but I think the "Establishment" will stay in place. There's still alot unclear about the ground situation. Remember, quite a few thought the Shia uprising against Saddam afer Kuwait was his end. That turned out to be grossly over-stated. |
| Posted by: Charles 2011-01-29 22:04 |
| #12 Obama doesn't have any tools in his tool box other than to rile up people to blame George Bush and Rush Limbaugh. The people he has surrounded himself with are only good at creating large pools of tax money that can be looted for their cronies. They have no clue or desire to govern. I suspect he'll just create another pool of money that can be looted for his cronies. Never let a good crisis go to waste. |
| Posted by: Martini 2011-01-29 17:49 |
| #11 okay, worst case scenerio, the worst sort of Islamists take over Egypt. How does that change the world? They have minimal oil but they do control the Suez and have a lot of manpower to exploit/export. Lastly they are unlikely to honor the Peace Treaty with Israel. The Suez issue really, really, affects Europe. Is it enough for them to become friends with Israel again in hopes of a repeat of the Suez Crisis? |
| Posted by: rjschwarz 2011-01-29 17:23 |
| #10 #9 Mubarak's wife, both sons head to London It's over for Mubarak---just starting for Egypt. |
| Posted by: g(r)omgoru 2011-01-29 16:29 |
| #9 g(rom) if you read my last sentence we agree on (ii) and (iv) which gets us to the same conclusion for (v) by any outside act. It's a matter of 'will' between the internal dissent and the establishment. Who has the greater at this point will play out before us. |
| Posted by: Procopius2k 2011-01-29 15:38 |
| #8 P2k, (i) Egypt population doubled since them. (ii) In Carter era USA was food exporter. (iii) Carter was/is a freak, but a sincere one. (iv) If you feed Egypt, you've to feed Jordan, Tunis, etc.... (v) Last, not least, it too late. |
| Posted by: g(r)omgoru 2011-01-29 13:19 |
| #7 It looks like he is heading in this direction. He has already sold out Israel. Offering a beer summit would be along the lines of applauding when Yang Yang (or whatever the hell his name was) played and sang at the Whitehouse and the POTUS applauded. |
| Posted by: JohnQC 2011-01-29 13:09 |
| #6 Answer: No. He'll eff this up much worse. Not sure how, but I know he (unfortunately) has it in him. |
| Posted by: Swamp Blondie 2011-01-29 09:08 |
| #5 There's nothing USA can do to maintain Mubarak's regime. When they were rioting under Sadat, triggered by food costs, Carter 'gave' literally boat loads of grain to Sadat which the Russians were never in a position to do. That allowed the wedge to start the break up of the Muslim war coalition against Israel. One of the few thing Jimmy did right. Poor Obama and State's situation is that agricultural policy, green politics, and wanton spending have removed that card from the deck, to address the original excuse for the fire which is now feeding on other grievances. |
| Posted by: Procopius2k 2011-01-29 08:40 |
| #4 There are 3 things I can think of. Popular, maybe not. Perhaps Zackaria and his post american world would love to comment.... |
| Posted by: swksvolFF 2011-01-29 03:33 |
| #3 Not the same thing. There's nothing USA can do to maintain Mubarak's regime. |
| Posted by: g(r)omgoru 2011-01-29 02:58 |
| #2 My guess is that he is chomping at the bit to do it. He snubs and flat-out insults our best allies while bowing before those who want to kill or enslave us. |
| Posted by: CrazyFool 2011-01-29 00:50 |
| #1 my guess is: YES. and he will do it in spades. |
| Posted by: abu do you love 2011-01-29 00:27 |