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'US working on plan for immediate Mubarak departure' | |
2011-02-04 | |
'New York Times' reports White House in negotiations with officials surrounding Egyptian president on plan to install transitional government run by Suleiman, supported by Egyptian military.
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Posted by:g(r)omgoru |
#21 Where's Allen Dulles when you need him? |
Posted by: James Carville/Karl Rove 2011-02-04 23:58 |
#20 Shep Smith just said 3 minute ago that Suleman (new Egyptian VP) had an assassination attempt. So it looks like somebody doesn't want the military in charge. |
Posted by: Charles 2011-02-04 19:50 |
#19 MUBARAK has already said he will leave office as Egypt's President after the formal September elections, ,so hopefully IMO this is about the US helping Mubarak AMAP to initiate key reforms + preserve EGYptian democracy. Becuz .... To wit, * FREEREPUBLIC > MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD: WE WANT NO PART IN INTERIM EGYPT GOVT. * FREEREPUBLIC > IRAN'S KHAMEINI [reiterates]CALLS FOR ISLAMIC REGIME IN EGYPT. * JPOST > MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD: WE ARE AGAINST ZIONISM. [MB peroclaims not to hate Jews but won't commit to the preserving the Arab-Israeli/Sadat-Begin Peace Treaty nor recognize any State of Israel]. Lastly, JPOST > [Merkel] GERMAN LEADER: ISRAEL'S SECURITY IS A GLOBAL ISSUE. ARTIC = SHIMON PERES argues that ... > PERVASIVE POVERTY is the current LEADING CAUSE OF THE ME'S PROBLEMS, not Ideology, espec as the ME Region's population has grown from 150Milyuhn to 400Milyuhn. > DEMOCRACY begins wid ELECTIONS, i.e. electing the right Personages to political power, ELECTING THE WRONG LEADERS can end same. > PEACE IN ME REQUIRES CHNAGES IN SITUATION, NOT [just] CHANGES IN GOVT(S), PEACE NEEDED BETWEEN NEW REGIMES-GOVTS + ME [ = "the New World"]. PEACE BETWEEN ME, NEW REGIMES-GOVTS + DESIRED OWG-NWO??? > |
Posted by: JosephMendiola 2011-02-04 19:45 |
#18 The thing is, no malice is needed from Obama in this situation. Simple incompetence coupled with his narcissism and ignorance can produce deadly results just as well. I think he works hard to hide his malice behind a mask of supposed narcissism and incompetence. Ever notice how he never makes any of his little "mistakes" when it comes to banning drilling in the Gulf? |
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain 2011-02-04 19:23 |
#17 Even President Obama Is Watching Al Jazeera. The Emir of Qatar (the funding behind al Jazeera) is nuts. He is digging his own grave by giving a lavishly-funded soapbox for all the pan-Arab, pan-Islamic and anti-Western nutjobs out there. It would be ironic if he gets the Najibullah treatment (warning: graphic image) after a successful revolt by the Shiite majority. |
Posted by: Zhang Fei 2011-02-04 19:19 |
#16 All you need to know Even President Obama Is Watching Al Jazeera. |
Posted by: tipper 2011-02-04 18:40 |
#15 c.f. Carter, James Earl |
Posted by: OldSpook 2011-02-04 18:01 |
#14 The thing is, no malice is needed from Obama in this situation. Simple incompetence coupled with his narcissism and ignorance can produce deadly results just as well. |
Posted by: OldSpook 2011-02-04 17:57 |
#13 I might be dead wrong here but I donÂ’t see Mubarak resigning. Yes they had 100s of thousand marching in the street, so did we when Bush was in office. The ones demonstrating here DID NOT represent the majority of Americans. The fact that I see pro-Mubarak fighting anti-Mubarak forces in pretty much equal numbers makes me think that his demise is far from certain. I would also point out that the military are the king makers, if they want him gone it would be so. So much cheer-leading from the U.S. press would lead you to believe that Mubarak is about gone, donÂ’t count him out yet. |
Posted by: Cyber Sarge 2011-02-04 16:45 |
#12 Sounds good Darth - as long as they get a one-way ticket. |
Posted by: CrazyFool 2011-02-04 16:12 |
#11 I have an offer. If Mubarak will resign, we will have Obama and his entire staff resign and immediately fly to Egypt and take over. They can see to providing Egypt with a "democratic" government. We will then immediately hold our own elections for a new executive leader. |
Posted by: DarthVader 2011-02-04 16:03 |
#10 "it's Mubarak. He has FTFY, EU. |
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut 2011-02-04 15:17 |
#9 rj, you assume the executive branch wants what's best for the United States. I do not believe this is so. |
Posted by: Hellfish 2011-02-04 14:58 |
#8 "I don't think we are in Kansas anymore." Chicago politics is not working on the national level. Neither will Chicago politics work on the international level. The junior Senator from Illinois is not qualified, does not have the mindset, does not have the character in areas where he is not surrounded with 'yes men' and 'yes women' who rubber stamp his every thought and whim. |
Posted by: Guillibaldo Sheng9999 2011-02-04 13:28 |
#7 Is the Obama administration going to fly Mubarak to Isla Contadora in Panama and further help repeat history? Carter redux. |
Posted by: OldSpook 2011-02-04 13:18 |
#6 Daniel Pipes sums up the situation well from a recent dialogue with the Economist:Two reasons lead me to assert that the Arab Republic of Egypt will not boast a democratic political system at this time next year. Heck, the dems and O have the same issues with democracy as Egypt does. |
Posted by: Alaska Paul 2011-02-04 13:10 |
#5 If Hosni splits, the Army can't hold power. |
Posted by: g(r)omgoru 2011-02-04 12:58 |
#4 Its what happens when ya go all in, and lose. I'd have to agree, I do not think Mubarak gained his position by playing dead for others' benefit. I'm not sure how, from a US diplomatic perspective, or even if there is a solution other than backspin, and being so vocal not sure how effective that would be. |
Posted by: swksvolFF 2011-02-04 12:35 |
#3 Good ol' US backed coup d'etat in Egypt. I can just imagine Obama sitting in the Oval Office and sweating bullets thinking he just has to do something to avoid looking like jimmuh carter. But he doesn't know what to do. Ask me whose judgment I trust in a situation like this, Obama or Mubarak, and I gotta tell you, it's Mubarak. He has a little more experience, you know. |
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 2011-02-04 12:12 |
#2 Because nothing says "American promotion of democracy abroad" like supporting a foreign military government run by a hand-picked intelligence officer. Francisco Franco could not be reached for comment. |
Posted by: Procopius2k 2011-02-04 10:57 |
#1 From a lot of news I've read it seems as if Mubarak is winning. Why not let him wrap himself in the Egyptian flag and hang on until elections in the Fall. Give the opposition a chance to build up, and give Suleiman a chance to decimate the muslim brotherhood. Assuming the news isn't wrong that is. |
Posted by: rjschwarz 2011-02-04 09:40 |