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Mubarak resigns
2011-02-11
Fox News is reporting that Hosni Mubarak has stepped down in favor of VP Omar Suleiman. BBC, Reuters, AP confirm...
Congratulations to the Egyptian people.

The B.O. administration and the State Department haven't known what to do. Obama got his 3 a.m. call and let the answering service handle it. He didn't know whether to spit or go blind so he closed one eye and drooled. Who's surprised?

There were two "hard choices," neither of them palatable: support Hosni, which meant supporting a bloody-handed dictator; or support the people in the streets and take a chance on the Muslim Brotherhood or ElBaradei, aka Iran's sock puppet. Hosni had jailed or run off all the other credible alternatives.

Public sympathy in the U.S., at least the sympathy of that segment of the public that wasn't watching Entertainment Tonight, was with the people in the streets, even though what comes next is still up in the air. As a nation we'd rather see liberty than dictatorship. Failing liberty, we still like seeing the dictators run out of town.

The talking heads, like the rest of Washington, have been split, seeing the popular support for change but realpolitiking almost out of habit.

No one knows what's coming next in Egypt. Given past experience, it'll probably be bad. But it won't be a continuation of the dictatorship of the past 30 years, which was a continuation of Sadat's dictatorship, which was a continuation of Nasser's dictatorship, which makes it 55 years. It'll be a new bad. Maybe in 30 years this new bad will give way to a new less bad. Or in 55 years.

We've been watching this for better than two weeks, as have the other strongmen in the Arab world. Everyone is wondering "who's next?" My guess would be the loathsome Omar Bashir in Sudan, or Ali Abdullah Saleh in Yemen. Assad is too firmly entrenched for now, but he's on the list, maybe after Jordan.

And so is the Iranian theocracy on the list, with its annual June demonstrations.

And so is the Tragic Kingdom on the list.

Fred says that no one knows what's coming next in Egypt. I'm no seer, but let me make a prediction.

What's happened in Egypt is a military coup. It is precisely the continuation of Mubarak who sprang from Sadat who sprang from Nasser. It's meet the new boss, same as the old boss. Suleiman will be the front man, but the generals are in charge, pretty much as they were when Hosni was the man. How else could Mubarak have maintained his grip for thirty years?

Suleiman and the junta will make some eye-catching, superficial reforms. They'll do things that play to the people on the street. Some market reforms, some new subsidies of basic consumer goods, and some 'job creation'. They might even be more successful than Obama in creating jobs.

Suleiman and the junta will sponsor elections in September. They'll make a big show of it with international observers and everything. They'll win, of course, and if they're smart they'll take 60 - 65% of the vote rather than the usual 90% that thugs like to get. They'll promote some sort of moderate 'opposition' that will be ineffectual but will look pretty to the Europeans.

All the while they'll identify the biggest threats to their rule and kill them. The leaders of the Muslim Brotherhood, the street leaders, the rubes who call themselves 'moderate', today all have cross-hairs on their foreheads. The people hated Mubarak's secret police -- very well, the secret police will get a new name and a new velvet glove for their iron fist. They won't fool the people on the street though they'll likely fool Obama.

Americans indeed like democracy and hate dictators. The average American, however, will tolerate a thug as long as he's 'our' thug. Suleiman will be that man, and he'll continue the grand tradition of thuggery in the Middle East.

I'll take Door #3, for the Muslim Brotherhood takeover. I don't doubt that they are well-organized, and they have been playing the game in Egypt for a long time, and this is the moment they have been preparing for. I expect in the future they will destroy the economy and stone women in the public square. Mubarak was a good guy, he kept his people down and didn't support terrorism, (unlike Saddam, who only followed half of that formula.) We should have done everything possible to help keep him in power.
Posted by:Fred

#15  Putting the military in charge is putting the foxes in the henhouse, once again. Egypt has been second in US foreign aid, only behind Israel, and most of it military. Can we take it back? How did Mubarak amassed 11 billion? Can we make any further aid contingent on their upholding of the peace treaty with Israel and democratic reforms? Seems we can do more than handwringing...
Posted by: Gerthudion Unump7993   2011-02-11 20:03  

#14  Nimble,

The folks in DC aren't coincerned with American interests. Only re-election and progressive power.
Posted by: Hellfish   2011-02-11 15:14  

#13  
We had a third choice. Keep our mouths shut and work behind the scenes to assure that American interests are protected. But this never occurred to anyone in Washington.

Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2011-02-11 14:51  

#12  The Shah left Iran for exile in mid-January 1979, and in the resulting power vacuum two weeks later Ayatollah Khomeini returned to Tehran to a greeting by several million Iranians.[8] The royal regime collapsed shortly after on February 11
Posted by: Beavis   2011-02-11 14:31  

#11  All the while they'll identify the biggest threats to their rule and kill them.

Even easier now that a good number of them have shown themselves (the really smart ones have stayed 'low', but their 'supply routes' have been exposed).

Expect many 'travelers' hurriedly leaving the country this week.
Posted by: Mullah Richard   2011-02-11 14:03  

#10  Long Time Spy Chief, Now in Charge of Egypt

"If someone knocks on your door at night and you disappear, Omar Suleiman is probably behind it," said Suskind, whose 2006 book "The One Percent Doctrine" detailed the Bush administration's post-9/11 counterterrorism policies. "He is a feared man, and certainly not a man with any legitimacy when it comes to rule of law or any of the principles we prized in America."

Drudge Report: Military Coup In Egypt Rocks Middle East

Posted by: Grump the Florid6708   2011-02-11 13:19  

#9  Woah Egypt, oh Egypt, don't treat me so mean,
You're the meanest old Egypt that I've ever seen.
I guess if you say so
I have to pack ma things and go. (That's right)

Hit the road Mubarak and don't you come back no more, no more, no more, no more.
Hit the road Mubarak and don't you come back no more.
(What you say?)
Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC   2011-02-11 13:09  

#8  So now Israel may have to seriously consider retaking the Sinai and Gush Katif.
Posted by: newc   2011-02-11 12:51  

#7  I agree with AD, that there was another option of publically voting present, at most passively support both sides' very real grievances (a cynic might point and say Obama wanted a big foreign policy win, but I personally am not ready to pin that yet though the quick active support of the opposition then flailed backpeddling is a concern not only for the process but potential future relations and perhaps a missed opportunity for monitored elections but that may be a behind the scenes deal, we will see).

If Glenmore's link is correct Egypt is now left to the wisdom of the military council for better or worse.

(sets 2 cents on table)
G.Beck has caught a lot of slack, I didn't necessarily agree with his theory but could not find fault in the reasoning. Could be that Mubarak's actions, whatever their motive, could have outlasted such an emotional wave long enough for people to take a step back and think this through. See what happens over the next 3 months.
Posted by: swksvolFF   2011-02-11 12:44  

#6  How close are their General Staff to American military? Hopefully some have been assigned to US military schools.
Posted by: Penguin   2011-02-11 12:34  

#5  From Stratfor:
Egyptian Vice President Omar Suleiman delivered the following statement Feb. 11: “In the name of God the merciful, the compassionate, citizens, during these very difficult circumstances Egypt is going through, President Hosni Mubarak has decided to step down from the office of president of the republic and has charged the high council of the armed forces to administer the affairs of the country. May God help everybody.”
SuleimanÂ’s statement is the clearest indication thus far that the military has carried out a coup led by Defense Minister Field Marshal Mohammed Hussein Tantawi. It is not clear whether Suleiman will remain as the civilian head of the army-led government. Egypt is returning to the 1952 model of ruling the state via a council of army officers. The question now is to what extent the military elite will share power with its civilian counterparts.
Posted by: Glenmore   2011-02-11 12:03  

#4  James,

Excuse me for sounding unsympathetic but I has serious doubts about most Moslems being able to comprehend and practice democracy. Even in Iraq which was completely secular for 40 years and the Imans effectively muzzled, democracy is a tough row to hoe for most in that region.

I believe we will see essentially a civil war in Egypt as the Moslem Brotherhood shows their true stripes as fanatical Islamists and the more moderates and the military fighting it out over the direction of Egypt.

I am more concerned about the loss of intelligence from Egypt.

I also believe this street revolt was manipulated by Hamas/Hizbullah in response to Egypt's crack down on the tunnels and supplies of arms and explosives into Gaza. It is no coincidence to me that this follows closely on the heels of the Egyptian crack down on tunnels and exploding watermelons going into Gaza.

Karl,

As usual your black hearted view of middle eastern politics is spot on the essence of the situation.
Posted by: James Carville/Karl Rove   2011-02-11 12:02  

#3  The U.S. should have one simple demand of Egypt, which would be to honor its peace treaty with Israel.

Beyond that, whichever thug rises to the top of Egypt's political system through whichever means they adopt is their business.
Posted by: American Delight   2011-02-11 11:41  

#2  Apparently, this time it's real.

Live feed from the BBC
Posted by: Frozen Al   2011-02-11 11:23  

#1  This Just In.... Generalissimo Francisco Mubarak is still ALIVE.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain   2011-02-11 11:17  

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