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| 2011-02-14 |
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| Posted by:ryuge |
| #4 The Koran is symptomatic of the culture, not the cause. From the time of Gilgamesh at least the common man was the servant of the gods. In the Sumerian creation myths the lesser gods rebelled against the high gods because they had to do all the work. To placate them the high gods created man. The will of the gods was, naturally, interpreted by holy men. Arabian society is built on a lack of freedom. Back in the temple days the Sumerians and their successors were more organized than the primitive tribals around them. The Arabs adapted to compete and we can see their success in the switch from Turanian to Semitic languages. That was 5000 years ago and they're still trying to compete on that model. It's competitive to the same extent as any totalitarian regime. In the 7th century they imposed the Arabic language and culture on a swath of land running from Syria through Paleostine and across North Africa. Syria and Lebanon and Paleostine spoke Semitic languages but they were distinct branches from Arabic -- the Phoenician and the Syriac group that included Aramaic, that Christ spoke. None of the native languages of North Africa are Semitic. Egyptian is representative of the Hamitic language group, and the Berber languages are a part of the Afroasiatic group. These language speakers' entire cultures and most of their languages are wiped out and an alien culture imposed on them. The Paleostinians don't even recall not having been "Arab." |
| Posted by: Fred 2011-02-14 10:05 |
| #3 Dribble, you are correct. The "root cause" of all the problems is Islam. As long ago as the 9th century the leading Arab scholars were discussing philosophy and science AND THE BAD GUYS WON!. The "correct" teaching of the Koran makes the entire idea of cause and effect haram. Allah wills all causes and all effects and there is nothing that prevents him from providing the causes with no effects; or effects with no causes. If that is the principle on which a society is based then there is absolutely no way forward. |
| Posted by: Alan Cramer 2011-02-14 09:31 |
| #2 The Arabs like Big Moustache, they eat it up. They traded a venal Mubarak for a Military Junta. Those poor suckers are never going to get the vote or a new Constitutiuon. What they are going to get is promises an Barnacle Bill the sailor. And the Palestinians are never going to build a damn thing. They have had fifty plus years to squat in their own feces keeping their feet warm...and whining at the top of their lungs about how the Jews wear shoes. The Arabs are never going to be anything but what they are. And they are what they are because they have Koranic values. The Koran produces exactly what you see when you see Arab countries. Exactly what you see. Take a good look. That smell you smell is Islam. |
| Posted by: Dribble2716 2011-02-14 02:38 |
| #1 A good knocking down & stomping I'd say. |
| Posted by: g(r)omgoru 2011-02-14 02:33 |