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Gitmo may stay open beyond 2012
2011-03-02
We at Rantburg really did see this coming, as of January 21, 2009...
Attorney General Eric Holder left open the certainty possibility Tuesday that the Guantanamo Bay terrorist prison camp might live on beyond President Obama's first term.

Asked in a congressional hearing whether the prison would be closed by November 2012, Holder said: "I don't know.
Sure you do, bubbo...
"We will do all that we can. We have to, obviously, work with Congress. Congress has put barriers in place to what I think is what we should be doing," Holder said. "So we'll have to work through those restrictions and work with our allies to try and come up with a way in which we can do that."

Obama promised during his successful election campaign to close the detention center in Cuba, calling it a recruiting tool for terrorist groups like al Qaeda.
Everything is a recruiting tool for al Qaeda...
He signed an executive order on his second day in the Oval Office that set a one-year timeline for shutting it down.

But both Republicans and even a few sensible, scared Democrats opposed the closure, saying they did not want any terrorist suspects housed in prisons in their home states. Congress prohibited any federal funds being used to pay for the transfer of detainees from Guantanamo to prisons the United States, and the White House has run away pushed the issue to the backburner.
More sterling B+ leadership from the man in the empty suit.
With Republicans now in control of the House, and Democrats showing little interest in losing another national election reopening the debate, Holder conceded under questioning that the prospects for closing Guantanamo have dimmed.

The attorney general said the Justice Department has established a task force to look at each of the 172 detainees being held at the Guantanamo prison to address how they should be dealt with.
Suggestion: shoot #1 through #171, and let #172 go to Yemen to tell everyone what happened.
Holder's comments come just weeks after CIA Director Leon Panetta told a Senate panel that Osama bin Laden would probably be shipped to and held at the Guantanamo Bay facility if he were captured.
That would be done only to make it more convenient for the Center for Constitutional Rights to represent Binny...
Panetta's remarks were widely viewed as a tacit admission that Guantanamo Bay won't be closing.
A rare moment of honesty from a CIA director, for which ...
A CIA spokesman issued a statement immediately after Panetta's testimony emphasizing the agency's support for shutting down the facility.
Just doing as he was ordered to do. Take that Mr. Panetta!
In testimony before the Appropriations Committee's Subcommittee on Commerce, Justice, Science and Related Agencies, Holder said the White House has not requested any funding in the 2012 budget for closing Guantanamo Bay.
Nor will they...
Subcommittee Chairman Frank Wolf (R-Va.) sparred with Holder over why the administration wants to close the prison. Holder argued the position long held by Obama: that the alleged torture and abuse committed against prisoners under President George W. Bush has been used as a way for al Qaeda to recruit potential terrorists to wage war against the United States.

"I start my day at 8:30 every morning with a briefing about the threat stream for the past 24 hours," said Holder. "It's a compilation of all that the intelligence community has found ... and you see -- not every day, but I think on a fairly consistent basis -- indications that the existence of Guantanamo is something that al Qaeda uses in its recruiting efforts. It is simply a fact."
Again, everything is a recruiting tool for terrorists. It's their world view. That's something Holder should understand.
Wolf objected, saying that the first bombing of the World Trade Center and the bombing of the U.S. Embassy in Tanzania, both carried out by al Qaeda-affiliated terrorists, occurred before Guantanamo began imprisoning combatants in the war on terrorism.

Wolf stressed that the White House should listen to the sentiments of lawmakers and stop carrying on with its own agenda. "Even in the previous Congress there was no will, which was a Democratic Congress, to really close Guantanamo," said Wolf.
Even Democrats know how to count to 50% plus one...
Wolf was one of the dozens of lawmakers last Congress who put forward bills to prohibit any of the detainees in Guantanamo coming to their own states.

Recent concerns have arisen among lawmakers that the Justice Department may be trying to reopen the Thomson maximum-security prison in Illinois in an attempt to ready it for Guantanamo inmates. But Holder assured the House panel that the plan to reopen the Thompson prison was solely geared toward easing the rampant overcrowding at some of the country's other prisons, without spending more money to build a new facility.

"There are no present intentions," Holder said. "We have these congressional restrictions with regard to the movement of people from Guantanamo to any facilities within the United States."
You won't mind then if we codify a restriction into the law...
Posted by:Steve White

#3  Guantanamo likely isn't useful for the CIA, who I believe prefer to do their questioning with a good deal fewer rules... and a great deal less oversight by the questionee's lawyer.
Posted by: trailing wife   2011-03-02 18:50  

#2  By that same logic we should start executing all the non-Muslims - since their mere existence is a tool for AL-Q recruitment.
Posted by: CrazyFool   2011-03-02 13:01  

#1  It'll stay open as long as the lease, which is "in perpetuity".
As long as we keep sending those $4000 checks that Fidel refuses to cash.
Posted by: tu3031   2011-03-02 12:02  

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