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French Rafale fighters flying over Libya
2011-03-20
[Ennahar] Several French army fighter jets (Rafale) flew on Saturday over the "the entire territory of Libya" for reconnaissance missions, said French military sources.

The Rafale jets have left in the early afternoon of the base of Saint-Dizier in eastern La Belle France, where they are based, they added.

The same source added, these "reconnaissance missions" must last throughout the afternoon on Saturday and Rafales have encountered no difficulties after several hours of flight over the Libyan territory.

The Rafale is designed for bombing missions, reconnaissance and air defense.

These overflights took place while was held in Gay Paree an extraordinary international summit on Libya, which appears like a last diplomatic sequence with the likely trigger for air strikes against the regime of Muammar Qadaffy.
Posted by:Fred

#22  I don't think it's fair to say Muslims never do it anywhere. In the US, many have. Even more of the next generation will

Yeah right. Do you remember the Muslim who wanted to bomb a Christmas tree?
Posted by: JFM   2011-03-20 19:04  

#21  I don't think it's fair to say Muslims never do it anywhere. In the US, many have. Even more of the next generation will. And the generation after that will be pretty white bread American. Takes 60 years, I agree, but we've been doing it to people who come here for 300 years. Except for the extreme isolationist religious sects like the Amish and Hutterites. But I don't see the run of the mill Muslim participating in a non-assimilative community like that, Dearbornistan not with standing. Now if we allow Sharia law legal standing...
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2011-03-20 18:38  

#20  lotp
... and to make their, muslim point they burn cars in France by the hundreds.
As for their assimilation - they never do it, anywhere, Dearborn included...
Posted by: vendaval   2011-03-20 18:20  

#19  mai qui?

I don't speak French, but I thought it was mais oui? The other doesn't compute for my admittedly limited translator.
Posted by: trailing wife   2011-03-20 17:22  

#18  "and serve hot" - JFM

Car-be-que™ hot, no doubt. ;-p
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut   2011-03-20 16:00  

#17  But I'm a softie. If you wanna crack down harder, I can go with that as well
Posted by: Frank G   2011-03-20 15:56  

#16  add in a weakass response to Car-B-Que season and you're excusing bad behavior. I'd smack it down HARD. With the miscreants getting their brains scrambled. They need to be identified, family benefits cutoff and ejected to where they came from
Posted by: Frank G   2011-03-20 15:55  

#15  JFM, with all respect, that's not what I've heard from many people - not only Muslims - who have tried to find middle class employment in France over the last few decades. Generous social benefits (but not jobs) + isolation in the banlieus = a dangerous mix over time. As we've seen these last few years.
Posted by: lotp   2011-03-20 15:49  

#14  Dribble, those French Muslims didn't assimilate in large part because they weren't allowed to. There are massive barriers to assimilation in that country

The only barrier is Islam. The fact that France is realtively close to their countries of origin and the fact that now tpeople have satellite dishes has allowed Maghreb governements to implement programs of ideological control and of propagnda towards haviong those peole feel Muslim and Arabs (Arabs not Berbers) not French. add high rates of crime due to a culture who considers taht teh Aerab herrensolk should rule over kaffir, sprinkle with some ideological manipulation by teh Communists and the people to their meft in order to have them hate the "colonialist opressors" and serve hot.
Posted by: JFM   2011-03-20 14:45  

#13  "A little more research and thought would inform your rather voluminous opionionating here."

True, lotp, but where's the fun in that? ;-p
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut   2011-03-20 13:52  

#12  Dribble, those French Muslims didn't assimilate in large part because they weren't allowed to. There are massive barriers to assimilation in that country and in many cases the radicalized youths in the banlieus are radicalized in response to their parents' inability to get middle class jobs etc. under the French system.

A little more research and thought would inform your rather voluminous opionionating here.
Posted by: lotp   2011-03-20 13:23  

#11  Scooter, the traditional poodle cut was actually functional for their water retreiving tasks. Protect the lungs, kidneys and joints from the frigid water, reduce water drag otherwise.

Of course, those dogs retained their tight curly hair close to the body, not pouffed up for show rings. I've seen videos of show champion standard poodles doing what they were bred for, in this case retrieving large waterfowl in the late Fall Chesapeake Bay area. They were having fun and working hard.
Posted by: lotp   2011-03-20 13:18  

#10  Free Radical, durnit, ya beat me to it. [snort]
Posted by: AlmostAnonymous5839   2011-03-20 10:57  

#9  "I wonder how long until the first 'terrorist' attack in France?"

As I said yesterday, I suspect the Car-be-que™ season will be moved up shortly, Brer.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut   2011-03-20 10:02  

#8  The Standard Poodle is actually a pretty cool dog, one of the smartest of them all. Unfortunately humans often give them the stupidest haircut possible.
Posted by: Scooter McGruder   2011-03-20 08:56  

#7  Make a deliberate point of killing KaDaffy dead and the "terrorist" initiatives will be much less. Pay for informants and make it a policy to hunt his ass down. Kill him.

And if the French hadnt opened their National doors to a big Moslem population which doesnt assimilate and burns cars and shoots at the gendarmes and doesnt like French wine and sausages....hey, they wanted to be multi-cultural, mai qui?

The French thought that lots of Moslems to sweep up the doggy doo on the Rue de Boulevard and behind the Crepe Suzettes was a good idea. If they get a boom-boom in the Avenue de Regard Vous...its their moustache and beret.

Its hard to feel sorry for the French...the Nation that gave the world the Poodle.
Posted by: Dribble2716   2011-03-20 08:41  

#6  I wonder how long until the first 'terrorist' attack in France?
Posted by: BrerRabbit   2011-03-20 06:31  

#5  Ay Pee reports that the French may tow the Charles de Gaulle into a support position by Monday.
Posted by: Free Radical   2011-03-20 06:06  

#4  The Rafales are going to be used for anything and everything in Libya : the French desperately need foreign sales of the Rafale and since it has had little combat experience while the F-15 and F-16 have tons of that, they are the ones selling. The French will use Libya to prove the capabilities of the Rafale to the Arab nations and hope to make sales from that.
Posted by: Shieldwolf   2011-03-20 01:28  

#3  Probably is. Its a shame we didn't get the same distance back in 86. Let France soak up some of the price now, they sure as shit didn't help back then.
Posted by: OldSpook   2011-03-20 00:54  

#2  Must be nice being right next door.
Posted by: gromky   2011-03-20 00:20  

#1  French have KC-135 tankers, so they can potentially have a lot of station time if needed.
Posted by: OldSpook   2011-03-20 00:11  

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