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| Pakistan says stop "blame game" at US, Afghan talks | |
| 2011-06-29 | |
| [Dawn] Pakistain on Tuesday called for the "blame game" to stop as the United States, Afghanistan and Pakistain met to discuss security in the region amid a Taliban insurgency and heightened tensions over cross border shelling. No matter how reprehensible Pakistain's conduct might become, they're never to be reprehended... President Hamid Maybe I'll join the TalibanKarzai ... A former Baltimore restaurateur, now 12th and current President of Afghanistan, displacing the legitimate president Rabbani in December 2004. He was installed as the dominant political figure after the removal of the Taliban regime in late 2001 in a vain attempt to put a Pashtunface on the successor state to the Taliban. After the 2004 presidential election, he was declared president regardless of what the actual vote count was. He won a second, even more dubious, five-year-term after the 2009 presidential election. His grip on reality has been slipping steadily since around 2007, probably from heavy drug use... has condemned the firing of 470 rockets from Pakistain into Afghanistan over the past three weeks. Islamabad says only that "a few accidental rounds" may have crossed the border when it pursued hard boyz who had attacked its security forces. It's kinda hard to imagine an accidental discharge of 470 heavy rockets...
"We need to end this blame-game," Salman Bashir, Pakistain's Foreign Secretary, told a news conference after a meeting of three countries in Kabul, without making any specific reference to border shelling. "We need to take ownership for our own affairs, this problem will not go away if we keep on pointing finger at each other, we have done it for too long and I think it is time that our two great nations decide." Afghanistan has often blamed elements within the Pakistain government for supporting the Taliban insurgency. Pakistain blames Afghanistan for giving refuge to hard boyz on its side of the border, particularly in eastern Kunar province, ... which is right down the road from Chitral... leaving it vulnerable to counter-attack when it chases them out of its own tribal areas. The talks were formally aimed at mapping out plans for reconciliation with the Taliban, but the shelling had been expected to dominate the agenda. The meeting, between US envoy Marc Grossman and top diplomats from Afghanistan and Pakistain, followed President Barack B.O.Obama's announcement last week of a faster-than-expected troop withdrawal, accompanied by talks with the Taliban. Top military commanders of Pakistain, Afghanistan and the United States met in Kabul on Monday to review the situation on the border, a Pakistain army statement said. Pakistain, badly bruised after US forces found and killed the late Osama bin Laden ... who had a brief but splitting headache... in the Pak town of Abbottabad on May 2, is keen to show it has a constructive role to play in helping the United States to bring stability to Afghanistan. It has long wanted the United States to hold talks with the Taliban to seek a political settlement to the Afghan conflict which it says is fuelling its own domestic religious insurgency. The United States has come some way towards sharing that view, opening its own preliminary talks with the Taliban. Karzai has also been pushing for reconciliation with the Taliban and for the first time in the 10-year war, Pakistain, Afghanistan and the United States all share -- in theory at least -- a commitment to seek a political settlement. | |
| Posted by:Fred |
| #4 DAILY TIMES.PK > PAKISTAN TELLS US TO LEAVE DRONE AIR BASE [Shamsi AB]. and * DEFENCE.PK/FORUMS > [US, Pak] OFFICIALS:OSAMA WASN'T RUNNING AL-QAEDA FROM ABBOTTABAD | ... OSAMA WAS LIKE A "CRAZY OLD UNCLE" [trying to to the younger generation of Jihadi Leaders + Fighters. OSAMA = trying to "stay involved" despite declining role or influence??? Personally, I don't believe it - as said before, unless his health was in steady decline the OBL I remember would not had tolerated or allowed such a thing to happen. * SAME > WEST [quietly] QUERIES CHINA OVER PAKISTAN ATOMIC TIES. IOW, SSSSHHHHHH "True Intentions" as per Sino-Pak Agreements on NucEnergy-only, as opposed to NucWeaps = covert NucEnergy-into-NucWeapons??? * TOPIX > OBAMA: US TO PREVENT MILITANT TAKEOVER [control]OF AFGHANISTAN | US WILL NOT ABANDON AFGHANISTAN + PAKISTAN, + will continue wid dedicated ANTI-AL-QAEDA EFFORTS = DRONE, MIL OPERATIONS. versus * DEFENCE.PK/FORUMS > US GENERAL: PAKISTAN WILL NOT SEARCH FOR MULLAH OMAR. Aka CAN'T-VERSUS-WON'T??? |
| Posted by: JosephMendiola 2011-06-29 22:08 |
| #3 Good reads on the mindset of the Pak army- http://www.dailypioneer.com/347646/Islamist-Army-of-Pakistan.html http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2008/04/23/how-islamicised-is-the-pakistan-army/ |
| Posted by: Paul D 2011-06-29 16:02 |
| #2 i say just fuck all of them. withdraw, who cares about there menial problems and there small time moneys. It's a fucking waste. instead just have a tinny/pint and make the world fall at peace with you. (p.s. this tactic might take all night, if not a few hours more) |
| Posted by: devilstoenail 2011-06-29 05:37 |
| #1 a couple of MOABs should be dropped on ISI HQ on a biz day and after that starts sinking into their retarded brains... then... maybe we could discuss quietly with Pakistan if they planned 911 with Osama. |
| Posted by: Water Modem 2011-06-29 02:06 |