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Will Los Zetas Overthrow the Mexican Government?
2011-08-01
The author has a terrible, as in non-existent means of linking her posts, so I must post the whole noxious thing. I actually sent her an email challenging her assumptions
Oh, that'll end well...
This is speculation, so take it as such. It is impossible to know for certain what another person or people are going to do until they do it, but when Vanna turns enough letters around on the board, you don't need to buy any more vowels.

I think the Obama regime is intentionally trying to get the Los Zetas drug cartel to overthrow the Mexican government, and do it fairly soon. This thesis is nothing new. If you want citations, do a google search of the terms "los zetas overthrow" and read up. What I want to address is the question of WHY.
This has come up in the last ten days by former DEA and CIA agents. The CIA guy is a former bush pilot. The DEA guy lost a brother in a shooting. As far as I know Proceso is the only Mexican news outlet to take this speculation seriously, and they, being leftists, take everything seriously
It's part of the pain of their existence to take everything seriously...
This is how we know they are deep thinkers. Philosophers, really, like those French and German guys whose names I can't remember.
The Obama regime wants to effectively dissolve the U.S.-Mexican border. A Los Zetas overthrow would accomplish this.
It's along way from there to here.
Mexican refugees would flood into the United States.
Another far fetched assumption
The U.S. would refuse to acknowledge the Los Zetas regime as a legitimate government.
First thing she has gotten right so far.
The U.N. and other illegitimate criminal syndicates operating as diplomatic fronts would immediately call for the U.S. to accept all Mexican refugees. Because the Mexican government would no longer be legitimate -- and essentially would not exist -- there would be no way to deport ANY Mexican nationals inside the U.S., because there would be no government in Mexico to hand them back to lawfully.
Watch us.
So, we would have:

1. Completely open borders
2. MILLIONS of refugees streaming into the U.S.
3. Global insistence that the U.S. accept these refugees
4. Instant de facto amnesty for both pre-Zeta and post-Zeta Mexicans in the U.S.
5. Obama cast as savior of these Mexican refugees
6. Millions of new welfare-dependent Obama voters
7. A lawless Mexico, wide-open to unlimited muslim and Chinese staging
As I have said before:
Hezbollah trying to set up a network in Mexico would be like me trying to train 15 cats using ten opened cans of wet cat food.

In the end the food will be gone, the cats won't be trained and all I will have to show for my efforts will be a lot of scratches and pissed off cats.

But then I s'pect Hezbollah already realizes that by now.

And the Chinese can'y stand their military getting a trimming courtesy of the US Navy because of some dumbass adventure in Mexico.

Now a word about drugs.
Just say no?
I know that there are many libertarians reading this website who think that legalizing drugs is the solution to everything. It sure is, if you're George Soros. If you will indulge me for a moment, I'm going to leave the current chess board and try to think five or six moves ahead. Los Zetas overthrow Mexico.
A huge assumption.
The border dissolves
Another huge assumption.
and Obama gets his millions of welfare-recipient voters. The Obama regime, which we know is just a front for Soros, legalizes drugs. Soros is pretty much the money behind the entire drug legalization movement. Legalizing drugs in the U.S. would instantly undercut and defund Los Zetas, thus allowing Soros to install a handpicked puppet in Mexico City.
Legalization would more likely help Mexican drug cartels than to hurt them.
And we're now are well on our way to piecing together the Soros global empire. Central and South America could be rolled easily.
A lot of socialist governments in South America already, Brazil, Ecuador, Cuba and Venezuela.
Soros funds a lot of stuff here and in Mexico. Soros helped Javier Sicilia and his group of peace groups in Mexico fund a series of peace marches since last March. This is what rich Socialists do. But if Soros wanted to overthrow the Mexican government, the place to start, the only place to start would be the Mexican military. And as soon as he is finished laughing his ass off I am certain Admiral Mendoza would have a thing or two to say about it.

Soros, and all Marxist-Communist tyrants, are big fans of drugs because drugs keep the rabble (that's us) dumb, compliant, desperate and dependant on the state. Soros, Jarrett, Obama, Ayers, Sunstein, Piven and all the rest would love nothing more than for the entire American populace to come home every night from a long day at the welfare office, bread line, and drug dispensary, smoke a joint or a blunt, plop down on the sofa and sit transfixed by pornography, circuses and/or state propaganda.
And naps. Can't forget those naps.
This is how the Soviet Union operated except with alcohol. There may not have been food or toilet paper at times in the Soviet Union, but MIRACULOUSLY the vodka would always manage to appear.
Russia does have its charms.
This basically eliminated the threat of the male populace to the state.
Sober at least
It also acted as a silent genocide by causing dramatic increases in early death AND dramatically decreased fertility rates when coupled with state-provided abortion-on-demand. In case you weren't aware, Russia's population today is imploding.

This is what the Marxist-Soros cabal wants the U.S. to look like, and in order to achieve that goal, they need to be the drug cartel. So, back to our original thesis. They would, or already have facilitated the Zetas' overthrow of Mexico by running guns and other high-powered weapons to them via Fast & Furious, which would give the Marxist-Soros machine permanent power by destabilizing the U.S. and stacking the American electorate, and would also position them to then eventually undercut the Zetas, seize and "nationalize" the American drug trade for themselves and then drug the populace into numbness, compliance, early death and mechanical infertility.
Don't forget the pony.
The problem with that thesis is that the weapons transported across the border went to many other drug cartels, not just the Zetas.
And no, I do not think that alcohol should be illegal. I can drink a given quantity of alcohol and not get drunk.
Sure honey, you're one in a million...
And I do, and I appreciate the flavor of the alcohol as I do other foodstuffs. A person can not smoke a joint and not get stoned. A person can not snort cocaine and not get high. A person can not inject heroin and not get stoned. The only purpose drugs have is the dramatic alteration of a human's psychological state, and that alteration reduces the ability to think critically and rationally, numbs the person to their surroundings, induces extreme selfishness and inhibits the ability to love. This is the Marxist definition of "the perfect man". No, check that. In Marxism, the perfect man is the dead man -- but the stoned man is the next best thing.
And the third: Believing that a collective for washed out Mexican Fuerzas Especiales and gangbangers are capable of overthrowing the Mexican government
If you're on that whole libertarian legalize drugs bandwagon, I would seriously advise you to think that position over very carefully -- and not while you're high on weed.
Or conspiracy theories
Start by looking at who is "on your side". That alone should be enough to convince you that you're being played.
So are you, dearie.
And look for the Zetas to move on Mexico City well before the 2012 elections. If we even make it that far.
This is what I wrote the author:
I write Mexican drug war news for rantburg.com. Your analysis is interesting but it is all wrong. Some of the weapons from the ATF program went to the Sinaloa drug cartel, one of which was used to murder the brother of Chihuahua ex attorney general Patricia Gonzalez, Mario Gonzalez last fall. The Sinaloa drug cartel is mortal enemies to Los Zetas. As things stand now Los Zetas have suffered terrible reverses in northern Mexico since the spring from attrition and from alliances between the Sinaloa cartel, the Gulf cartel, as well as others.
Posted by:badanov

#6  Obama doesn't know enough American history to aspire to replicate Woodrow Wilson's mistakes.
Posted by: Mitch H.   2011-08-01 13:20  

#5  And I thought I WAS A CONSPIRACY THEORIST.

If they gave Olympic gold medals for conspiracy theories, this poor woman would win a lifetime award.

Too bad there may be some grain of truth buried in all of this. Any sort of reality to a conspiracy theory violates the entire conspiracy theorist code of conduct.

Let me go pass out some water to my boys in the black helicopter that just landed in my back yard.
Posted by: Bill Clinton   2011-08-01 11:10  

#4  See 15 and 10 years! It has been real all over again!
Posted by: Vinegar Bonaparte7545   2011-08-01 07:04  

#3  Ah, heck.
I like blow as much as the next guy.

But I can't live in a post apocalyptic mexican wasteland-narco-state and still pay state tax.

CA is going to have to choose one, me or them.
Posted by: bigjim-CA   2011-08-01 01:38  

#2  I can't speak about the Mexico stuff, but the bits about why legalize drugs seem spot-on to me.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain   2011-08-01 00:45  

#1  Ah, Ms. Barnhardt. Somewhat capable, when she sticks to her limited area of expertise.

Posted by: Pappy   2011-08-01 00:23  

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