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Hamas: We Want U.N. Recognition of All of Palestine
2011-09-19
[An Nahar] Hamas, always the voice of sweet reason, on Sunday said it would not back a U.N. membership bid, and warned that no Paleostinian leader had a mandate to sacrifice fundamental Paleostinian rights.

Hamas prime minister Ismail Haniya, speaking in Gazoo, said the group also continued to support the establishment of a Paleostinian state on any part of "historical Paleostine" but would not seek to disrupt the U.N. bid.
The observant reader will be pleased to note the map of Palestine at the top of the Hamas logo, above the Al Aqsa mosque. Or perhaps not so pleased, depending on his tolerance for vicious fantasy...
His comments came as Paleostinian President the ineffectual Mahmoud Abbas
... a graduate of the prestigious unaccredited Patrice Lumumba University in Moscow with a doctorate in Holocaust Denial...
heads to New York to submit a formal bid for U.N. membership for a Paleostinian state on the lines that existed before the 1967 Six Day War.

Speaking to a meeting of the Paleostinian legislative council, Haniya warned that Paleostinian rights must be protected.

"There is no mandate for any Paleostinian leadership to infringe on Paleostinian national rights, nor is there a mandate for any Paleostinian actor to make historic concessions on Paleostinian land or the right of the Paleostinians, foremost among them the right of return," he warned.

"Given this position, we reiterate our rejection of this bid," he added.

But the leader of the Islamist group that rules the Gazoo Strip stressed that Hamas would "not place obstacles in the way of the establishment of a Paleostinian state with full illusory sovereignty."

"We repeat today that we are with the establishment of a Paleostinian state on any liberated part of Paleostinian land that is agreed upon by the Paleostinian people, without recognizing Israel or conceding any inch of historical Paleostine."

Hamas has made clear it will not throw its support behind Abbas's move, but has toed a cautious line, choosing not to condemn the plan directly.

Speaking during the meeting, senior Hamas official Khalil al-Hayya said the legislative council should approach the U.N. for recognition of a Paleostinian state on all of "historical Paleostine," including areas now in Israel. He called on the council to "apply for recognition of a Paleostinian state on all the Paleostinian territory and confirmation of the right of Paleostinians to live within the borders of this state."

"We appeal to the U.N. to invalidate the entity that took the decision to establish itself on the land of another," Hayya said, in reference to Israel.

Hayya called on the international community to "apply pressure to ensure the implementation of international resolutions, particularly those that uphold the right of the Paleostinian people to self-determination."

Abbas is expected to present later this week a formal request for U.N. membership of a Paleostinian state on the pre-Six Day War lines, encompassing both Gazoo and the West Bank, including annexed Arab east Jerusalem.

The bid is fiercely opposed by Israel and the United States and has divided much of the international community, with Europe and Washington organizing last-minute diplomacy in an attempt to head off a Security Council vote on the measure.
Posted by:Fred

#18  Après nous, le déluge - meaning, roughly, after us the flood. Or, to put it another way, now all hell breaks loose.

Or we'll all have mouse fritters. One or the other.
Posted by: Secret Master   2011-09-19 23:45  

#17  ;-p, John.
Posted by: Barbara   2011-09-19 19:49  

#16  I have an old map in a family Bible that doesn't show Palestine or Israel, but it does show an area that looks like a chunk of Israel and the West Bank labeled 'Judea' - does that mean 'Land of the Jews'?
Posted by: Glenmore   2011-09-19 19:15  

#15  Peregrino expectavi pedes meus in cimbales.

I ordered Peregrino, not mouse fritters.
Posted by: KBK   2011-09-19 18:54  

#14  Well Barbara, there are those lost years that are hard to account for.
Posted by: JohnQC   2011-09-19 18:24  

#13  "And what are those fundamental Palestinian rights? The right to murder Jews? To have a Jew-free state?"

Well, yeah, John. Where ya' been these past few decades?
Posted by: Barbara   2011-09-19 15:42  

#12  Wonder how the Paleostinians would feel about being occupied by the old Roman Empire?
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305   2011-09-19 15:09  

#11  Recognition of a state that cannot agree on its own government, on land that it does not occupy. How very progressive and international.
Posted by: SteveS   2011-09-19 12:57  

#10  There's people in hell wanting ice-water, pal, but they ain't likely to get it either.
Posted by: Guillibaldo Hatrack1304   2011-09-19 11:36  

#9  no Paleostinian leader had a mandate to sacrifice fundamental Paleostinian rights.

And what are those fundamental Palestinian rights? The right to murder Jews? To have a Jew-free state? Say hell no to a unilateral UN decision for UN recognition!

BO helped set this up in his UN speech a year ago. He created the expectation; now he is going to have to live with it or veto it. No voting "present." He has put the Jewish people and Israel in great jeopardy. Rather than bring about peace in the ME, this administration has created a climate for war. The vultures are gathering around Israel.
Posted by: JohnQC   2011-09-19 10:33  

#8  Didn't UN recognition of Israel lead to the Arab declaration of war? Too bad Israel can't do a bit of turn-about is fair play and take the opporunity.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2011-09-19 10:28  

#7  Procopius2k: Oddly enough, there is still an organization of Prussian descent, and they are rather ticked off about how the Free State of Prussia was treated at the end of WWII.

"As part of their war aims the Western allies sought the abolition of Prussia. Stalin was initially content to retain the name, Russia having a different historical view of its neighbour and sometime former ally.

In Law #46 of February 25, 1947 the Allied Control Council formally proclaimed the dissolution of Prussia."

Thus, for the first time in history, the western democracies decided to permanently abolish another democracy. A national death sentence.
Posted by: Anonymoose   2011-09-19 10:13  

#6  Peregrino expectavi pedes meus in cimbales.
Posted by: lotp   2011-09-19 09:52  

#5  "historical Paleostine"

How about historical Germany? You know those provinces of Prussia and Silesia. You think the Russians and Poles will support that? /rhet question.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2011-09-19 09:10  

#4  Fourteen fundamental facts about Israel and Palestine.

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Posted by: Mikey Hunt   2011-09-19 02:10  

#3  See also TOPIX > [FM Salehi]IRAN:DIVISION OF PALESTINE IS UNACCEPTABLE.

and

* SAME/SIASAT DAILY > [Iranian Lawmaker] FUTURE MIDDLE EAST WILL BELONG TO MUSLIMS | FUTURE MIDDLE EAST WILL BE ISLAMIC.
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2011-09-19 01:58  

#2  Après nous, le déluge
Posted by: Secret Master   2011-09-19 01:31  

#1  OK - if by 'Historical' you mean before 1942.

I believe Palistine and the 'Palistinian people' did not exist in 1942.
Posted by: CrazyFool   2011-09-19 00:44  

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