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Home Front: Politix
US Presidential Race: Cain upsets Perry
2011-09-26
[Emirates 24/7] Former pizza executive Herman Cain surprised rival Rick Perry with an upset victory on Saturday in a Republican presidential straw poll in Florida, dealing a disappointing loss to the Texas governor two days after a shaky debate performance.

Perry, leading in the polls for the 2012 US Republican presidential nomination to run against Democratic President Barack B.O. Obama, had needed a victory in what was an early test of strength to salve the wounds left over from a debate with his rivals on Thursday in which he struggled.

Instead, former Godfather's Pizza executive Cain, who is far behind the two top-tier candidates Perry and Mitt Romney in national polls, won with 37 percent of 2,657 votes cast.

Perry was a distant second at 15 percent, just ahead of Romney, who won 14 percent despite not participating in the poll. Further back were Rick Santorum, Ron Paul, Newt Gingrich, Jon Huntsman and Michele Bachmann.

Florida's straw poll is nonbinding and significant only in terms of showing a candidate's strength in the state. State contests to pick the nominee do not start until next year.
The Perry camp shrugged off the results.

"Cain won, we still have work to do," said Perry front man Mark Miner. "It's his day. The conservative message won today. We've been in this race for five weeks. We're going to continue campaigning hard."

Miner put the focus on Romney's third-place finish, saying Perry's chief rival has been running for president for years and is still not breaking through.

"It's more of what happened to Mitt Romney. He's not going to be crowned president of the United States. He's going to have to work for it. And after five and a half years he once again got rejected in a key state in the Republican primary process," Miner said.

Perry created doubts among some conservatives at a Republican candidates debate on Thursday, which he admitted on Friday was not his best performance. He was criticized by his rivals for a Texas policy that allows children of undocumented Democrats to pay in-state tuition rates at Texas colleges.

"Perry doesn't stand for our constitutional values," said delegate Kris Anne Hall, who voted for Cain. "Perry doesn't stand up against illegal immigration."

Perry surrogate Michael Williams, addressing the straw poll delegates on Saturday before the vote, sought to do some damage control for the Texas governor, who had addressed an Orlando breakfast earlier before campaigning in Michigan.

"We're not electing a debater-in-chief, we're electing a commander-in-chief," said Williams, adding that no Texas undocumented Democrat had received a handout for a free education.

Cain, who promotes himself as a pragmatic problem-solver with a clear tax reform plan, eagerly welcomed the victory. "This is a sign of our growing momentum and my candidacy that cannot be ignored," Cain said after his win.

Most political analysts give him no chance of winning the nomination.

But Florida's Republican Party noted that, since 1979, every winner of the Florida straw poll has gone on to become the nominee. Senator John Maverick McCain
... the Senator-for-Life from Arizona, former presidential candidate and even more former foot soldier in the Reagan Revolution...
won it in the 2008 cycle and defeated Romney to become the nominee.

Florida, the most populous of the presidential swing states, is a critical test for both Republicans and Democrats. The Florida vote was so close in the 2000 election that it led to a ballot recount battle between Democrat Al Gore and Republican George W. Bush, who was ruled the winner.

Romney, the former Massachusetts governor, and Bachmann chose not to compete in the straw poll but their names were put on the ballot since they took part in the debate and spoke to delegates in Orlando.
Perry issued a statement after the straw poll results were revealed that was clearly aimed at Romney.

"Floridians and voters nationally want a candidate who is clear on the issues and talks honestly about the future, not someone who takes multiple sides of an issue and changes views every election season," Perry said.

Romney also held off from directly targeting Perry in a speech later on Saturday in Michigan. Instead, he took aim at Obama and made his case against Perry indirectly.

Romney called for strict measures to stop undocumented Democrats, and echoed his contention that the country needs a businessman like himself, not a career politician like Obama or Perry, to solve U.S. economic problems.

"Those skills are what are needed in America today," said Romney, the multimillionaire founder of private equity firm Bain Capital.
Posted by:Fred

#13  Pretty much any MSM piece on the Republican candidates from now until the election is going to be a hit piece on whoever looks like the front-runner. Think of it as battle-space preparation.
Posted by: SteveS   2011-09-26 19:51  

#12  I hate to disagree with you, RandomJD, especially because I really like Mr. Cain's moxie. But to be an effective president one needs the political experience to play politics with the big boys and girls in Washington, and he just doesn't have that. Part of President Obama,s problem as president -- besides being wrong on all the issues and an vicious, petty ass who isn't nearly as intelligent as he's been told he is -- is that he just doesn't have enough political experience to even be aware of much of what is happening about him, let alone know how to affect it. I would br very happy to vote for Mr. Cain after he'd spent a few terms in the House, or as a state governor.
Posted by: trailing wife   2011-09-26 19:48  

#11  All else aside, I agree, Chris W. Cain is the right man at the right time. USA Corp. is bankrupt and someone who knows how to turn this bucket around is exactly what's needed. The happenstance of his skin color also neutralizes the race issue, or at least very effectively beclowns those who will no doubt continue sputtering about it.

I don't think the question is whether he's so much better than Perry or Romney or whoever. What matters is: can he beat BHO? I hate to emphasize his race, but if the choice comes down to two black guys, I think who's the decisive alpha male and who's the vain, finger-pointing beta male will be crystal clear. And that makes him electable.
Posted by: RandomJD   2011-09-26 19:34  

#10  Cain is the best candidate in this field and I've believed that since day one.
Posted by: Chris W.   2011-09-26 14:29  

#9  Frozen Al

And? It can be either because there was no organized effort or no significant militancy bias (thiis is no longer true now that we have the Tea Party) or because it was a self-fullfilinng prophecy ie people saw the winner as the most electable (between realtively close profiles). But straw pols continue to be a rotten way to investigate vote. BTW, it was the system who brought you McCain and what is his name who was crushed by Clinton in 1996.
Posted by: JFM   2011-09-26 12:37  

#8  Any one of those candidates would be better than the incumbent.

That said, if Cain says Chile one more time I'm gonna turn off the TV.
Posted by: Abu Uluque   2011-09-26 12:00  

#7  JFM,
see quote below:
since 1979, every winner of the Florida straw poll has gone on to become the nominee.

That's the important point.
Posted by: Frozen Al   2011-09-26 11:42  

#6  Pleaaaaase, open an elementary manual on poll methodology 101, first page, first sentence is "Straw polls are meaningless" and it is easy to prove it.

Suppose there are two options: A with 90% of the voters and B with 10%. Now, in the straw poll, only 1% of A people vote because the As don't feel it is important to vote in a starw, aka fake poll. But either because there are very militant or because there is a concerted effort 100% of Bs vote. End result is that despite being outnumbered 9 to 11, the Bs will outnumber the As 11 to 1 in the straw poll.

Understood? Now let's put straw poll results, _any_ straw poll results where they belong: in the waste basket.
Posted by: JFM   2011-09-26 08:55  

#5  After Perry's meltdown, Cain was the next logical pick. I think he has what this nation needs. He has turned around 4 bankrupting businesses and has old world experience.
Posted by: newc   2011-09-26 08:47  

#4  Not with the media we have today. Cain wins, but the ink is about everyone else.
Posted by: Bobby   2011-09-26 06:14  

#3  Cain is the man. We will be a lucky nation if he is our next president.
Posted by: Scooter McGruder   2011-09-26 05:42  

#2  Theatre of the absurd.
Posted by: gr(o)mgoru   2011-09-26 01:27  

#1  Who can turn down free Pizza?
Posted by: Fester Dark Lord of the Mongol Horde9444   2011-09-26 01:12  

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