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2011-10-03 | |||
![]() I am so-o-o-o-o stealing that. It's not plagiarism when you announce you're going to steal it up front, is it?
Deader than a rock, from what we hear. Over at Salon.com, Good Gawd! They're still around? Who reads them? All the right-minded folks who read Newsweek, of course... Glenn Greenwald greeted this news by calling President B.O. an assassin. President Sparafucile? Somehow it doesn't work for me... After all, Mr. Al-Awlaki was a US citizen and was never convicted in a court of law of those offenses for which the alleged terrorist was allegedly killed. According to a story in the Los Angeles Times, also joining Mr. Greenwald in the assassin-identification business was Texas Congressman Ron Paul. That's a pretty fastidious approach, alright. It avoids getting blood on your hands by drooling pablum down the chin. Pontius Pilate approves. Part of me is glad to see Mssrs. Greenwald and Paul engaging so cordially in this rare moment of bipartisan harmony. They should spend more time together. They make a cute couple. I'm looking forward to buying them a toaster. And it is always good to see ideas in Special Providence confirmed in real life; in that book on the American foreign policy tradition I wrote that Jeffersonians on the right and the left often unite in their condemnation of what they see as executive excess. I used Ralph Nader and Pat Buchanan in the book as I recall; now I can update those examples. ![]() But I fear I am one of the mindless hordes Mr. Greenwald invokes when he, like Paul, mourns that so many Americans will think the death of Al-Awlaki is good news. My throat's still raw from all the ululation. What's most amazing is that its citizens will not merely refrain from objecting, but will stand and cheer the U.S. Government's new power to assassinate their fellow citizens, far from any battlefield, literally without a shred of due process from the U.S. Government. Many will celebrate the strong, decisive, Tough President's ability to eradicate the life of Anwar al-AwlakiAgain I note with praise and thanks Mr. Greenwald's sense of fair play as he steps in to make a favorable contrast between GOP debate audiences and the liberal editorialists who praised President B.O.'s drone campaign -- and reminds us that whatever faults it may have Texas does have a judicial system in which accused criminals have rights. Much more of this from the often acerbic Mr. Greenwald and historians will begin to describe our times as an "era of good feelings" in which bipartisan civility reigned supreme. ... rather than as an era in which theory regularly triumphed over practice... But having said all this, and wanting to emphasize that both in Special Providence and elsewhere I argue that the Jeffersonian critiques from Ron Paul, Glenn Greenwald and others of executive excess in foreign affairs stand in a long and completely legitimate tradition of American foreign policy, it nevertheless seems to me that they are wrong in this case. ![]() Perhaps this is just further proof of how mindless I am, but it does seem to me that Al-Awlaki and his buds are at war with the people of the United States and that in war, people not only die: it is sometimes your duty to kill them. "Duty" is the key word there. It's at the end of a very long stick of social change. In 1941 my Dad had a duty to get drafted and shipped off the fight Nazis. Our cultural pantheon included Mom, the Boy Scouts, Apple Pie, Truth, Justice, and the American Way. After 70 years of battering Dissent is the Highest Form of Patriotism. Mom has become a role model for both girls and boys, has taken a lesbian lover, and has a life outside the home as a pole dancer. The Boy Scouts are ucky because they refuse to allow homosexual predators to swarm around boys just as they're trying to figure what the hell puberty's doing to them. Truth has become relative. Justice has crumbled in the face of rehabilitation and counterintuitive compassion. Practices that would have tripped a gag reflex at Buchenwald now have their own validity, which makes any "American" way just one approach among many and who's to say which is better? It's an age of sympathetic vampires and evil clowns, where duty is a tenuous concept that applies only to what's best (or even what feels best) for you. ![]() To my knowledge, no American "captured" by either al-Qaeda or the Taliban has escaped alive. Geneva Conventions apply only to the civilized, while today's Vandals, Avars and Huns get to do things the 622 A.D. way. Mr. Al-Awlaki chose to make himself what used to be called an outlaw; a person at war with society who is no longer protected by the laws he seeks to destroy. He was not a criminal who has broken some particular set of laws; He means not just a criminal who broke a particular set of laws... ![]() Once you join the enemy army you're cut off from the rules governing your own people. You get to live by theirs, and your old side, the one you were born and bred to, gets to shoot you out of hand if they catch you. By waging private war against the United States, he placed himself in jeopardy, and our Chief Magistrate, obedient to the commitments he made when he took his oath of office, fulfilled his solemn duty by returning Mr. Al-Awlaki to his maker by the most effective means at hand. Once you're outside your own country and living in the enemy camp you get what the enemy gets. What's complicated about that?It's because you've become an enemy, whether you've submitted a letter of resignation from civilization or not.
Being forced into the cattle chute and groped when I want to fly somewhere is a much greater infringement of my civil rights than Anwar al-Awlaki swallowing a Hellfire in another country. Every President of the United States, including Thomas Jefferson and probable Ron Paul hero John Tyler (the only ex-president who stood with the Confederacy in the Civil War) would have taken a similar step in similar conditions, and I have no doubt that every Congress ever elected would have backed them up. Abraham Lincoln did not order the Kearsarge to arrest the Confederate sailors on the Alabama and return them to the US for a civil trial; he ordered the Navy to sink Confederate ships without serving them arrest warrants, without getting grand jury indictments, without reading them their rights and without giving them the opportunity to send their lawyers into court to get injunctions against the attack. ... and Lincoln took the same sort of heat (only worse) from the same sort of people who're bitching and moaning today... ![]() Starting with being outside the boundaries of the U.S... Had he been captured, and dragged as it were unwillingly back under the umbrella of American law, it might have been different, and he could have been tried for treason or other crimes. But Mr. Obama was under no obligation to risk the lives of American soldiers to save Mr. Awlaki from himself and restore to him the protection of the laws he despised, nor was he under any obligation to forbear and allow Mr. Awlaki to continue his activities until such time as Interpol or some other recognized law enforcement agency could serve him a warrant and take him into custody. ![]() ![]() Being Chief Magistrate implies you've actually got a country to be in charge of. There won't be any luxury vacations for Michelle and the girlies with the black flag of Islam flying over the White House. Probably if you live there you notice the flagpole every day. It changes the outlook. But if the President is acting as Commander in Chief in a Congressionally authorized quasi-war (quasi because Al Qaeda is not a state), then his actions fall under another set of guidelines altogether. I don't think the war's "quasi" at all. The Visigoths weren't a "state," either, which meant squat to the Romans in 410 A.D.For that matter, Islam was not a "state" in 622 A.D. Unlike the Visigoths and unlike Mohammed himself, al-Qaeda did declare war on us "crusaders and Jews." The President has created some of the confusion in our debate. Make no mistake... Frequently during the campaign, sometimes even in office, he has spoken as if he is the head of a criminal investigation team. When it comes to actual decisions, however, he acts like a military leader at war. ![]() ![]() The rest is history. Major (Now LTC(P), assuming his career hasn't been assassinated by jealous pretty boyz) Brilliant's approach started showing good results almost from the first -- remember how they thought they'd gotten Zawahiri on what in my memory is the first use of drones in FATA? Since then the intel's been improving, the technology's been improving, the skill of the operators has been improving, there's been a long string of sudden job openings among the turbans, and suddenly B.O.'s a military genius. Go figure. Greenwald and Paul appear to believe that he is a policeman and needs to start acting more like one; I believe he is a war leader and needs to start talking more like one. Politically he's constrained to wimpery. With the economy such a shambles his lefty constituency's all he's got, and they hate the idea of U.S. military success. ![]() Not until Polanksi decides that Jihad is the Only Way... Two years ago, the idea that America was in a war might have seemed like one of those anachronistic Bushisms which could be swept underfoot by the New Age of Light and Reason--Guantanamo and military tribunals would have to go as well. With Anwar al-Awlaki dead, the Obama Administration has again demonstrated that it can fight the Lord Voldemort War pretty well; it just can't quite bring itself to make the case for what it must do. ![]() The President can speak forcefully about force; I've said time and again... his Nobel Peace Prize address on the continuing importance of war is a case in point. Make no mistake! He needs to do more of this at home; It'd be a game changer... if a war is important enough to fight it is important enough to defend and explain. You can keep your present plan. | |||
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#6 To me the asshole was an immediate threat to the life of each and every single American in the USA and abroad - that alone makes him a legitimate target to be taken out. |
Posted by: CrazyFool 2011-10-03 17:40 |
#5 This is war not a law enforcement project. See Senate Joint Resolution 23 from 2001. Note well, para 2(b) which invokes the War Powers Resolution, not the National Emergency Act, not the National Security Act, but the War Powers Resolution. |
Posted by: Procopius2k 2011-10-03 16:41 |
#4 Traitors can be killed, I'm not sure we need a trial when the traiter is openly fighting alongside the enemy and has declared such. Assassination should be our primary way of waging war against dictatorships. We have a process of orderly replacement when a leader dies. Dictatorships do not. Besides it avoids blowing up infrastructure adn killing a population that more often than not can be manipulated into fighting against their best interests because they are uneducated and religiously intolerant and untrusting. |
Posted by: rjschwarz 2011-10-03 14:33 |
#3 We didn't snuff the US citizen al-Awlaki, we snuffed the Yemeni citizen al-Awlaki. The US guy was collateral damage. And if we'd captured him and brought him here for trial, it would be called kidnapping, and we'd have to prosecute ourselves for that instead of for murder. And whatever happened to the old 'Wanted, Dead or Alive' posters we used to see on the old westerns? We had a bounty on bin Laden - did we have one on al-Awlaki? We should, and we should pay the units responsible for their demise, and they should have a great big party and invite all their friends. Open bar, top shelf. |
Posted by: Glenmore 2011-10-03 13:39 |
#2 I got far more bunched up about Waco and Ruby Ridge. |
Posted by: JohnQC 2011-10-03 13:34 |
#1 Interesting. The author uses an example of the Lincoln and the civil ear era. |
Posted by: Besoeker 2011-10-03 12:02 |