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Britain
British Homosexuals to marry in church
2011-11-09
[Iran Press TV] The British government is to allow homosexual couples to hold civil ceremonies in church, as the equalities minister, Lynne Featherstone, lifts the ban on 5 December.

Despite likely opposition from religious leaders and church groups, British Prime Minister David Cameron
... has stated that he is certainly a big Thatcher fan, but I don't know whether that makes me a Thatcherite, which means he's not. Since he is not deeply ideological he lacks core principles and is easily led. He has been described as certainly not a Pitt, Elder or Younger, but he does wear a nice suit so maybe he's Beau Brummel ...
has supported the decision.

Under the proposals, no church will be compelled to provide homosexual couples with services. Nevertheless, some officials are to take measures to ensure churches will not deny gay couples civil ceremonies.

Around 1,500 civil partnerships would take place in churches after the ban is lifted.

The proposals have raised great concerns among the Christian community as the Church of England has announced that it would not bless homosexual couples.

Offering services to same-sex couples faced opposition when it was first proposed, with the then Bishop of Bradford, the Rt Rev David James, telling politicians in the House of Lords it would blur the distinction with marriage.

Furthermore, the Church of England proposed that the government should authorize "each religious tradition to resolve these matters in accordance with its own tradition."

Under the scheme, every individual clergy should seek the approval of the whole denomination before asking parish churches to provide homosexual couples with civil ceremonies.

Moreover, the Roman Catholic Church in England and Wales has expressed their opposition to the decision.
Posted by:Fred

#6  I have no problem with civil marriages among gays if the majority of a society agrees. I have a very large problem with a government forcing a church to take actions that are against the church's doctrine and practice. There is a critical difference between intervening to prevent active abuses (child marriage, for instance) and affirmatively imposing practices on a religious community.
Posted by: lotp   2011-11-09 20:54  

#5  They will NOT be able to use Catholic facilities at all. NY Archbishop and head of the US Catholic Bishops has already set a precedent. if the RC Church in England follows it.
Posted by: Speamble Wittlesbach8094   2011-11-09 13:01  

#4  Is it just me, or does anyone else see a MORMON-STYLE schism soon to be created???

Joe, you're a bit behind on news re: the Anglicans, I think. Here in the US, a number of high profile parishes have already left the Episcopal church and aligned with the more traditionally-minded Anglican Province of Nigeria. This occurred when the Episcopal Church's House of Bishops rejected the Windsor Covenant.

At the last Lambeth Conference the Nigerian primate and others from the global south made it clear they were seriously considering what their responsibilities call them to say and do in response to what they increasingly view as apostasy on the part of the US and UK churches. Since the global south includes a strong element of evangelican protestantism as well as the other tendencies within traditional Anglican theology and worship, they are unlikely to join those parishes who have moved towards Rome. Instead, I think we'll see that the next Lambeth Conference will bring open rebuke at a larger scale. These are churches who, for the most part, gather under physical threat of their lives from both Islamicists and in some parts of the world from repressive governments.
Posted by: lotp   2011-11-09 12:17  

#3  This is why we separate Church and State.
Posted by: trailing wife   2011-11-09 08:04  

#2  Good to know he's getting on with the really important stuff first...
Posted by: Bright Pebbles   2011-11-09 05:57  

#1  Is it just me, or does anyone else see a MORMON-STYLE schism soon to be created???
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2011-11-09 01:01  

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