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Iran scared away US carrier, and will "take action" if it dares to return
2012-01-03
Iran will take action if a U.S. aircraft carrier which left the area because of Iranian naval exercises returns to the Gulf, the state news agency quoted army chief Funny Face-Maker Ataollah Salehi as saying on Tuesday.

"Iran will not repeat its warning ... the enemy's carrier has been moved to the Sea of Oman because of our drill. I recommend and emphasize to the American carrier not to return to the Persian Gulf," Salehi told IRNA.
Or what? The Twelfth Imam will pop out of a well somewhere?
"I advise, recommend and warn them (the Americans) over the return of this carrier to the Persian Gulf because we are not in the habit of warning more than once," the semi-official Fars news agency quoted Salehi as saying.
You just said that.
Salehi did not name the aircraft carrier or give details of the action Iran might take if it returned. However, last week a spokeswoman for the U.S. 5th Fleet said the USS John C. Stennis had left the Gulf.
Why on Earth would we pull that carrier at exactly that time?
Iran completed 10 days of naval exercises in the Gulf on Monday, and said during the drills that if foreign powers imposed sanctions on its crude exports it could shut the Strait of Hormuz, through which 40 percent of the world's traded oil is shipped.

The U.S. Fifth Fleet, which is based in Bahrain, said it would not allow shipping to be disrupted in the strait.

Iran said on Monday it had successfully test-fired two long-range missiles during its naval drill, flexing its military muscle in the face of mounting Western pressure over its controversial nuclear program.
Why just two? Figure that's about the maximum you'll be able to shoot off before getting destroyed?
Iran also said it had no intention of closing the Strait of Hormuz but had carried out "mock" exercises on shutting the strategic waterway.
Yes, I've been mocking them, too.
Tehran denies Western accusations that it is secretly trying to build atomic bombs, saying it needs nuclear technology to generate electricity.

The United States and Israel have not ruled out military action against Iran if diplomacy fails to resolve the Islamic state's nuclear row with the West.

The European Union is considering following the United States in banning imports of Iranian crude oil. U.S. President Barack Obama signed new sanctions against Iran into law on Saturday, stepping up the pressure by adding sanctions on financial institutions that deal with Iran's central bank.

Meanwhile, Iran said the new record low of the national currency to the U.S. dollar was not linked to the latest sanctions from the United States targeting the country's central bank.

Foreign Ministry spokesman Ramin Mehmanparast on Tuesday insisted there "is no relation" between the two. He said the American sanctions "have yet to be put into practice."
So I guess you're saying Iranians are too stupid to do the practical thing of changing currencies ahead of getting whacked?
The Iranian currency's exchange rate hovered late Monday around 18,000 riyals to the dollar, marking a roughly 12 percent slide compared to Sunday's rate of 15,900 riyals to the dollar.
Wow. A currency based on something worth 1/159th of a penny?
President Barack Obama on Saturday signed into law a bill targeting Iran's central bank as part of the West's efforts to pressure Tehran over its nuclear program. It goes into effect in six months.
Posted by:gorb

#22  Actually there are no more US Tomcats; they all got cut up several years ago in response to illegal sales of their parts to Iran. too bad they didn't cut up the POS doing the selling. all the F-14 gate guards and museum pieces were rendered nonflyable as part of the deal to put them on display.
Posted by: USN, Ret.   2012-01-03 23:40  

#21  More ...

* DEFENCE.PK/FORUMS > FARS NEWS AGENCY: FOREIGN WARSHIPS WILL NEED IRAN'S PERMISSION TO PASS [enter] STRAIT OF HORMUZ.

FNA quoting Iran MP Nadir Qazipour.

* SAME > PENTAGON: US NOT SEEKING CONFRONTATION WID IRAN OVER STRAIT OF HORMUZ.

* WAFF > PENTAGON PUSHES BACK ON IRANIAN WARNING TO US AIRCRAFT CARRIER | US TO IRAN: WE AREN'T GOING ANYWHERE.

* SAME > CBS NEWS: US: WARSHIPS WILL SAIL DESPITE IRAN THREATS.

* CHINESE MILITARY FORUM > [Foreign Affairs Jan-Feb 2012] FOREIGN AFFAIRS: TIME TO ATTACK IRAN.

versus

* WAFF > IRAN HAS NO LONG-RANGE MISSLES [IRBMS or ICBMS]: RUSSIA.

Russ DM Spox Vadim Kaval.

ARTIC > DM SPOX KAVAL > TEHRAN = IRAN DOESN'T HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY, + AREN'T LIKELY TO DEV OR ACQUIRE IT SOON.

Unfortunately for Vadim, Iran has OIL MONEY + repor lots of URANIUM ORE DEPOSITS, to entice both Foreign Specialists + Third-Party Govts-States.

In addition, as per LRBMS Iran has PAKISTAN + NORTH KOREA on one side, + indir rival TURKEY next door.

TURKEY = will repor dev a new 2500-KM ICBM, A TECH WHOSE DATUMS = MILSPECS WILL BE TOO ENTICING FOR IRAN + MILTERRS TO NOT TRY + GET ACCESS TO - LEGALLY OR ILLEGALLY.
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2012-01-03 20:30  

#20  If the USN has a sense of humor, they could slap a motor on the USS Iowa (BB-61), as a target ship for the Iranians, and watch their surprise when they hit it with half their arsenal and it just toodled along without a care in the world.

Yah, just like the Bismark shrugged off everything from those cloth covered biplanes.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain   2012-01-03 20:03  

#19  "Not believable, rjschwarz: the Iranian F-14's can't fly."

ROFL, Glenmore. :-D
Posted by: Barbara   2012-01-03 19:05  

#18  D *** NG IT, THE I-I-IRANIANS CAN'T DO THAT - SINKING A US CVN IS NORTH KOREA'S JOB!

The Brits = NATO could prob use the JFK, or any CVN(s) the US chooses to scrap.

As for the Burkies ...

* DEFENCE FORUM INDIA > [US= USDOD] ZUMWALT-CLASS DESTROYERS MAY BE RECONSIDERED - DDG-1000:BACK TO THE FUTURE, but wid modifications in design to fire the BMD-capable SM-3 Missle Sys + other latest.

* SAME > US NAVY TO DEPLOY "SWITCHBLADE" UAV [SLV] FROM SUBMERGED SUBMARINES.
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2012-01-03 19:01  

#17  An aircraft carrier really isn't the best ship for the Gulf.

I don't see why not. We've operated three carrier groups in there simultaneously. There's additional air cover available from shore.

The moving the Stennis to the Gulf of Oman was probably an attempt at a detente. Too bad the Iranians chose to do some d*ck-waving instead.
Posted by: Pappy   2012-01-03 18:22  

#16  Iran scared away US carrier, and will "take action" if it dares to return
Are you kidding me? Iran scared us away? What kind of language is this? Having Obama at the helm gives them the courage to threaten these things. Man do we ever need to get him out of office and pronto.
I'm with Anonymoose; send destroyers and cruise missle subs how dare Iran threaten us, we should be on the ready most definitely.
Posted by: Jan at work   2012-01-03 18:06  

#15  The "enemy's carrier". Well, I for one, would like to send our battlestars right into the narrowest section of the straight, and park for a respite.

Don't come at me, bro.

This shiat should have been settled in '79. But voting has consequences.
Posted by: Mizzou Mafia   2012-01-03 17:36  

#14  Maybe we could find a few pilots willing to do the job. :-)
Posted by: gorb   2012-01-03 16:28  

#13  Alas, the F14 is an analog machine - no digital fly-by-wire controls to hack into remotely-controlled unmanned capability. FWIW ;-)
Posted by: lotp   2012-01-03 16:17  

#12  An aircraft carrier really isn't the best ship for the Gulf. Instead, I'm thinking of sending a half dozen little Arleigh Burke class destroyers above and a number of cruise missile submarines below. With orders to blow the snot out of anyone who even thinks about interfering with them.

If the USN has a sense of humor, they could slap a motor on the USS Iowa (BB-61), as a target ship for the Iranians, and watch their surprise when they hit it with half their arsenal and it just toodled along without a care in the world.
Posted by: Anonymoose   2012-01-03 15:22  

#11  Not believable, rjschwarz: the Iranian F-14's can't fly.
Posted by: Glenmore   2012-01-03 14:54  

#10  Still think we should take some of our grounded F-14's and paint them to look like Iranian jets and if possible set them up to fly by remote control and just cause some confusion and chaos. We could even use them as suicide bombers if they were remote controlled.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2012-01-03 14:51  

#9  Yeah, but no nation building. Let the survivors figure out what to do with the rubble.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305   2012-01-03 14:10  

#8  "but I think I know what Teddy Roosevelt would do"

Something about Marines in Tehran?
Posted by: Mullah Richard   2012-01-03 13:54  

#7  If we had a POTUS who was interested in maintaining US credibility, he would send that aircraft carrier right back in there and then publicly ask the general exactly what he intends to do about it. I don't look for such a thing to happen with Hussein Obama but I think I know what Teddy Roosevelt would do.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305   2012-01-03 12:52  

#6  Is Iran seriously threatening to commit an act of war against a US ship in international waters?
Hmmm, if we BELIEVED them, and wanted an excuse to engage in a war with Iran, could we convert the USS John F Kennedy (non-nuclear and worn-out) into the world's largest radio-controlled craft and see what happens?
Posted by: Glenmore   2012-01-03 12:00  

#5  Well, now that's taken care of. Poor JUSTICE, beaten by a girl.
Posted by: trailing wife   2012-01-03 11:20  

#4  Clean up in aisle...oh, heck, any aisle.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2012-01-03 11:14  

#3  How about the return of the Carrier Battle Group?

An much higher level of firepower.
Posted by: CrazyFool   2012-01-03 10:56  

#2  Army chief Salehi saying something is one thing, but I'm waiting for the halal General Salami's views.
Posted by: Muggsy Glink   2012-01-03 10:18  

#1  "I advise, recommend and warn them (the Americans) over the return of this carrier to the Persian Gulf..."

Is he talking about the Gulf of Rumsfeld?
Posted by: SteveS   2012-01-03 10:06  

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