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Afghanistan
Ice breaks between US, Hizb-i-Islami
2012-02-02
[Dawn] Preliminary talks held recently by the US and the Hizb-e-Islami resistance group of Afghanistan meant ice was breaking between them and that would create opportunity for more meaningful talks in the future, said Ghairat Baheer, political adviser to the group's leader Gulbuddin Hekmatyar,
... who used to be known in intelligence circles as The Most Evil Man in the World but who now seems merely run-of-the-mill evil...
here on Tuesday.

"We have not received any positive response so far, but we favour meaningful dialogue with the Americans," he told a conference titled "The Afghan Issue: Regional Implications and Suggestions for Sustainable Peace".

The conference was organised by the Centre for Discussions and Solution, a think-tank headed by former chief of Jamaat-e-Islami
...The Islamic Society, founded in 1941 in Lahore by Maulana Sayyid Abul Ala Maududi, aka The Great Apostosizer. The Jamaat opposed the independence of Bangladesh but has operated an independent branch there since 1975. It close ties with international Mohammedan groups such as the Moslem Brotherhood. The Jamaat's objectives are the establishment of a pure Islamic state, governed by Sharia law. It is distinguished by its xenophobia, and its opposition to Westernization, capitalism, socialism, secularism, and liberalist socAAial mores...
Qazi Hussain Ahmad.
... third president (1987--2009) of the Pak Jamaat-e-Islami. Qazi was also head of the Muttahidah Majlis-e-Amal until his ego became bigger than the organization. Qazi is what is known as a fiery preacher, which means he has lots of volume, a good delivery, and not a lot of reverence for coherence. He was the patron of Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, Rasool Sayyaf and Osama bin Laden during the war against the Soviets. He used to recommend drining camel's urine to maintain good health before his kidneys started to go...
Jamaat Ulema-e-Islam
...Assembly of Islamic Clergy, or JUI, is a Pak Deobandi (Hanafi) political party. There are two main branches, one led by Maulana Fazlur Rahman, and one led by Maulana Samiul Haq. Fazl is active in Pak politix and Sami spends more time running his madrassah. Both branches sponsor branches of the Taliban, though with plausible deniability...
chief ,Maulana Fazlur Rehman
Deobandi holy man, known as Mullah Diesel during the war against the Soviets, his sympathies for the Taliban have never been tempered by honesty ...
Awami National Party provincial chief Senator Afrasiab Khattak, Qazi Hussain Ahmad, former spymasters, bureaucrats, intellectuals and journalists from Pakistain and Afghanistan attended the conference, arranged at a time when the US and Taliban started talks in Qatar. Mr Baheer said that he met CIA chief Gen (retired) David Petraeus, Afghan President Hamid Maybe I'll join the Taliban Karzai
... A former Baltimore restaurateur, now 12th and current President of Afghanistan, displacing the legitimate president Rabbani in December 2004. He was installed as the dominant political figure after the removal of the Taliban regime in late 2001 in a vain attempt to put a Pashtun face on the successor state to the Taliban. After the 2004 presidential election, he was declared president regardless of what the actual vote count was. He won a second, even more dubious, five-year-term after the 2009 presidential election. His grip on reality has been slipping steadily since around 2007, probably from heavy drug use...
and NATO
...the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. It's headquartered in Belgium. That sez it all....
Commander John R. Allen on recent visit to Kabul and discussed with them the situation in war-torn Afghanistan.

"We have realised that Americans have no solution for the Afghan issue.
Not until either Pakistan retires behind the Durand Line, or the drones kill enough jihadis that it doesn't matter.
Despite that, Hizb-e-Islami is ready to continue talks," he said, adding that the core issue was withdrawal of foreign troops from Afghanistan.

He said that Karzai government would fall after withdrawal of NATO forces.

"Let us discuss a comprehensive package for Afghanistan," he proposed and warned that the region would suffer if the US did not leave Afghanistan. He said that Afghan nation should get a fair opportunity to elect its government freely. He urged America, Russia and its allies to support grinding of the peace processor in Afghanistan.

Maulana Fazl supported negotiations between America and Taliban, saying that other powers should support grinding of the peace processor.
He said that flawed policies had isolated Pakistain and Taliban had been handed over to America.

"Pakistain was the looser when Soviet Union was withdrawing its force from Afghanistan in 1989. Pakistain is once again at the receiving end because of widening gulf between Pakistain and its allies," he said and added that Islamabad had been trapped.
He said that immediate priority should be to pull Afghans from war and then discuss other issues.

The JUI chief said that his party supported peace talks between Taliban and Washington provided it brought sustainable peace to Afghanistan and urged all Afghan factions to start dialogue.

Maulana Fazl also stressed the warring factions to negotiate with President Karzai. He said that Taliban had committed blunders when they captured Kabul. "I told Taliban leaders at that time that they did not form government but occupied Kabul," he remarked.

Afghan intellectuals and journalists criticised the role of Pak establishment and demanded that Islamabad should stop interference and help grinding of the peace processor to end the decades old bloody game in the region.

"Pak policymakers should choose for us what they like for themselves," said Mir Waiz, an Afghan journalist. He added that Pak policymakers disliked Talibanisation in their country while support the same phenomenon in Afghanistan which was unfair.

Former chief of Inter Services Intelligence Gen (retired) Hameed Gul said that America bypassed Pakistain and started talks with Taliban in Qatar. He was sceptical about peace talks in Qatar. He said that Islamabad should change its US-centric policy and act upon joint resolutions of the parliament.

Gen (retired) Asad Durrani, former Afghan interim prime minister Eng Ahmad Shah Ahmadzai, former chief secretary Gulzar Khan, Brig (retired) Mahmood Shah and others also spoke on the issue.

A joint declaration issued on the occasion said that a durable settlement of the Afghan conflict required an 'Afghan solution'.

"A solution imposed by the foreigners cannot yield long-term peace. In this pursuit of an all-Afghan solution for stability, the international community should truly commit to the principle of non-intervention in internal affairs of Afghanistan," said the declaration.

It said that Afghanistan could not be allowed to remain a playground for perpetuating foreign occupation or promoting global and regional hegemonic motives.

"The time has come that the international community rise to fulfil its obligations towards Afghanistan," it added. The foreign forces should withdraw and an intra-Afghan political settlement is reached through participation of all Afghans. The destiny of Afghanistan belongs to Afghans.

It called for instituting a fully inclusive reconciliation process to facilitate the intra-Afghan settlement in accordance with the religious, cultural and tribal values of the Afghan society. "It is vital that the process should be Afghan-led, Afghan-owned and Afghan driven," the declaration said.
Posted by:Fred

#1  Complete and unconditional surrender. (Can't help wondering---how long until "USA" will start demanding the same from Israel)
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2012-02-02 01:57  

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