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Fifth Column
''Iran must steer clear of US interests in Gulf''
2012-09-04
The United States has indirectly informed Iran, via two European nations, that it would not back an Israeli strike against the country's nuclear facilities, as long as Tehran refrains from attacking American interests in the Persian Gulf, Yedioth Ahronoth reported Monday.
So we're sacrificing Israel to remain safe ourselves for another year or two...
According to the report, Washington used covert back-channels in Europe to clarify that the US does not intend to back Israel in a strike that may spark a regional conflict. In return, Washington reportedly expects Iran to steer clear of strategic American assets in the Persian Gulf, such as military bases and aircraft carriers.
Do we really think the Iranians can whack our fleet assets?
Israeli officials reported an unprecedented low in the two nations'' defense ties, which stems from the Obama administration''s desire to warn Israel against mounting an uncoordinated attack on Iran.

The New York Times reported Monday that US President Barack Obama is promoting a series of steps meant to curb an Israeli offensive against Iran, while forcing the Islamic Republic to take the nuclear negotiations more seriously.

One of the steps considered is "an official declaration by Obama about what might bring about American military action, as well as covert activities that have been previously considered and rejected," the report said.

Several of Obama''s top advisors believe that Jerusalem is seeking an unequivocal American statement regarding a US strike on Iran -- should it actively pursue a nuclear bomb. Israel hopes such a statement is made during Obama''s address before the UN General Assembly on September 25.

Others in the White House said Israel is trying to drag the US into an unnecessary conflict in the Gulf.

White House spokesman Jay Carney said Monday that "There is absolutely no daylight between the United States and Israel when it comes to preventing Iran from getting a nuclear weapon."

Carney said that all options remain on the table for Iran. He said the "window for diplomacy remains open," adding that the diplomatic process remains the best way to deal with the Islamic Republic, though "that window will not remain open indefinitely."
Cyber war a go?
According to the New York Times, Washington has also sent Iran a back-channel deal suggesting they curb their nuclear ambitions, but Tehran rejected the deal, saying no agreement is possible sans lifting all West-imposed sanctions.

According to the report, the Obama administration is exploring the possibility of mounting a covert operation, as well as waging a "quiet" cyber war against Iran.
It would be better if we worked with the Israelis. It would be better if we activated Operation Lemony Snickett and just let a lot of bad, unexplained, unfortunate incidents occur inside Iran. As Stalin once remarked, we have a 'nobody' problem: "no body, no problem". As more and more Revolutionary Guard commanders, political chiefs, nuclear scientists and ayatollahs meet with unfortunate accidents, our problems become fewer.
President Obama had previously rejected the notion, fearing such cyber assaults would wreak havoc on Iranian civilian life.
There's a fair chance the Iranian people would have thanked us for this had we stood by them in 2009...
Later in September, the United States and more than 25 other nations will hold the largest-ever minesweeping exercise in the Persian Gulf, in what military officials say is a demonstration of unity and a defensive step to prevent Iran from attempting to block oil exports through the Strait of Hormuz.

In fact, the United States and Iran have each announced what amounted to dueling defensive exercises to be conducted this fall, each intended to dissuade the other from attack.
Posted by:Glinesh Craling7938

#19  DAILY TIMES.PK > IRAN IS "ONLY POWER" THAT CAN SECURE GULF: COMMANDER. IRGC Navy Chief ADM. Ali Fadavi.

and

* TOPIX > IRAN CLOSELY MONITORING/WATCHING US NAVAL MOVEMENTS IN GULF.

Again, the KSA is being surrounded by Iran like Custer, or now Israel.

* TOPIX, WORLD NEWS > IRAN, NORTH KOREA SIGN "AXIS OF TECH EVIL" DEAL.

'Tis still inter-Nation "Franchising"???

NOKOR has the Nuke Warheads?, while Iran has the LR BM delivery + targeting systems???
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2012-09-05 00:06  

#18  Let's think carefully about what we oppose in Iran. Not the Iranian people. Not their aspirations for wealth and respect. We oppose their government's fostering of hate and fear.

We ridicule their hate. And we disparage their fear.

Whether they have nukes, frightening poopy guns, or just poopy pants, America will always oppose Iran's government as long as it is animated by hate and fear.

America's interests are not primarily in a Navy base or in the security of Israel, they are in the minds of the people of the world, and Iran. America will respect Iran when it respects itself and its neighbors. That is America's interest.

Don't steer clear, instead submit.

Posted by: rammer   2012-09-04 23:52  

#17  I'm actually surprised by this. No, not that B-HO did it, silly. But that he was so obvious about the sellout. Netanyahu lecturing him like a schoolboy must have really wound him up. Welcome to the Chicago Way.
Posted by: SteveS   2012-09-04 21:12  

#16  Scare them send in the Hot Air Balloons!
Posted by: Knuckles Bumble4938   2012-09-04 15:57  

#15  Price of gasoline is already higher than a Kite, and we don't hear anything about it from the MSM.

And you won't either until a Republican is president.
Posted by: DarthVader   2012-09-04 15:03  

#14  Price of gasoline is already higher than a Kite, and we don't hear anything about it from the MSM.
Posted by: bman   2012-09-04 11:24  

#13  Americas allies are not Hussein's allies.
Posted by: Omeresing Chising9479   2012-09-04 10:55  

#12  Has bambi ever told the truth? About anything? EVER? What's really sad is that I can believe this. I should have zero doubt we'd abandon our allies but we've already knifed Poland in the back.
Posted by: Silentbrick - Schlumberger Squishy Mud Division   2012-09-04 10:28  

#11  Champ will do almost anything to prevent a closure of the Straights of Hormuz before November. $7.00 to $10.00 per gallon gasoline going into the election would be a huge negative. It could happen overnight.
Posted by: Besoeker   2012-09-04 09:36  

#10  One thing for sure ... this division between USA and Israel is exactly what the Iranians want. It plays into their hands - by buying them more time. Every day without action by the West - is a big advantage to Ahmadinejad.
Posted by: Raider   2012-09-04 09:20  

#9  Not even the Obean regime is that dumb.

Um gorb? Can you give me any evidence, any evidence at all to support this statement?

I wouldn't be surprised if he send sand sculptures and rubber vaginas to the ME.
Posted by: AlanC   2012-09-04 09:01  

#8  The Jew, what will we do with him? He continues to do the unthinkable, as he bravely denies the right of the world to exterminate him. [sarcasm added]
Posted by: Besoeker   2012-09-04 08:00  

#7  while forcing the Islamic Republic to take the nuclear negotiations more seriously
Give me a f*cking break. The mullahs have been playing rope-a-dope for years. It's been quite successful for them so far, why should they stop now?
Posted by: Spot   2012-09-04 07:43  

#6  Sometimes adopting a cringing position doesn't pay off. It only encourages the thugs.
If Israel attacks Iran, US Mid East bases will pay dear – Nasrallah
Posted by: tipper   2012-09-04 06:56  

#5  Don't worry about it, Sailor. US forces remaining neutral is a good outcome as far as Israel is concerned.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2012-09-04 01:40  

#4  According to the report, Washington used covert back-channels in Europe to clarify that the US does not intend to back Israel in a strike that may spark a regional conflict. In return, Washington reportedly expects Iran to steer clear of strategic American assets in the Persian Gulf, such as military bases and aircraft carriers.

So I'm to believe that the folks who run our foreign policy would give away something for nothing? Not even the Obean regime is that dumb.
Posted by: gorb   2012-09-04 01:35  

#3  While at the same time Bammy has sent Gen. Petreaus to Israel as the 'Designated Groveler' to 'splain that the relations between Israel and the U.S. are closer than ever.
more empty words from an empty suit.
Posted by: USN, Ret.   2012-09-04 01:34  

#2  The US has denied the Reports but may not be enuff to restore effec trust as per Israelis + US Jews - INSTEAD OF A "COLD WAR" BETWEEN ISRAEL + IRAN, THE COLD WAR INSTEAD IS BETWEEN THE US + ISRAEL???
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2012-09-04 00:18  

#1  This is not good - I suspect that for one to label US-Israeli ties as "strained" after this new is being "polite".

IMO a lot of Israelis + Jewish-Americans, Politicos + mainstream, are gonna be shocked + angry at the Bammer.
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2012-09-04 00:14  

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