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Fed Judge Rules In Favor Of Attack Ads At MTA Stations Targeting Radical Muslims
2012-09-21
[CBS] A legal fight over freedom of speech is spilling into New York's subway tunnels. A sign about "Jihad" is set to debut next week. The Metropolitan Transportation Authority says it crosses the line, but a judge disagrees.

On the region's subways and buses, most ads we see don't get much attention. But that may change with a pro-Israel ad that will soon grace MTA property which reads: "In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel. Defeat jihad."

The ad is a clear swipe against radical Muslims.

"It's going to create problems for no reason, you know?" Maguid El Ghazzawi of Astoria told CBS 2's Sean Hennessey on Wednesday night.

At a Manhattan Mosque, not all were pleased with the fact the ad will soon go public.

"It is negative, not positive," Harlem's Abdus Khan said.

"I think it is something stupid. For somebody they are very ignorant," El Ghazzawi said.

For almost a year, the MTA fought the running of the ad, saying the words "savage" and "jihad" demean a group, but in the lawsuit a federal judge ruled that barring the ad violated the First Amendment and the "....fundamental importance of the free flow of ideas..."

"What the court said, 'no demeaning' is too general a phrase," said Leon Friedman, a constitutional law expert at Hofstra University. "Government just can't say 'I like this ad, I don't like that ad.' They just can't do that."

While the MTA said its hands are tied, the ad's sponsor celebrated the victory.

"Political speech is the most protected speech," said Pamela Geller of the American Freedom Defense Initiative.

Geller said the ad isn't anti-Muslim, but a response to an anti-Israeli ad the MTA ran last year.

"Honestly anyone that disagrees with me, I would take a bullet for their right to disagree with me. This is the beauty of America, the free exchange of ideas," Geller said.

On the subways, some said they understand the court's wisdom.

"I don't necessarily agree with what the ad says, but you shouldn't be suppressing free speech," said Doug Quayle of Darien, Conn.

While others said the ad should be derailed.

"I feel like it's disrespectful to other cultures," said Ayana Sanchez of Union City, N.J.

The MTA said it may revise its advertising standards. In the meantime, the ads will be seen on subway platforms beginning next week. The ads will be seen in 10 Manhattan subways stations and will run for a month.
Posted by:Beavis

#6  See also DEFENCE.PK/FORUMS > ANTI-JIHAD "SAVAGES" ADZ GOING UP IN NYC SUBWAYS.

versus

* SAME > SAUDI ARABIA: WORLD ISLAMIC BODY PUSHES FOR GLOBAL ANTI-BLASPHENY LAW. Human Rights Commission of the inter-Islamic OIC.

* DAILY TIMES.PK > TIME FOR [World "Ummah"] MUSLIMS TO UNITE, SAYS RAJA.

Pak PM Raja Pervez Ashraf.

* SAME > [World/International] MUSLIMS PROTEST FILM, CARTOONS AMID DEATH CALLS.

ARTIC = Libyuhn Clerics call on Saudi Arabia + Egyptian Al-Azhar to ISSUE FATWAS CONDONING DEATH OF ANYONE = MURDER ASSOCIATED WID ANTI-MUSLIM/MOHAMMED FILM.

Technically speaking, fatwas could apply to POTUS Bammer + Admin???

* SAME > [JD Chief Saeed deamnds Pak Govt give ...]ULTIMATUM TO US: CRIMINALIZE [anti-Islamic] BLASPHEMY [in US], OR LOSE CONSULATE(S) IN PAKISTAN.

* TOPIX, WORLD NEWS > ISRAELI OFFICIAL: WORLD AFTER IRAN STRIKE SIMILAR TO VIOLENT ANTI-FILM PROTESTS.

* CHINESE MILITARY FORUM > [DM Ahmad Vahidi]IRAN OFFICIAL: "BIG WAR" MEANS MAHDI COMING, MILITARY LEADER TIES "LAST MESSIAH" TO REGIME'S PREPARATION FOR CONFLICT.

Iran + World in "ERA OF [Mahdi's/Hidden Imam's]COMING"; US-IRAN WAR IS A [religiously?] SIGNIFICANT WAR FOR SHIAS + ISLAM.

Son???
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2012-09-22 00:05  

#5  All your think tanks and agencies are beyond past compromised by them!




#16 Quds force on this page is friendly and this is from Rand corp same page! Know why you are being killed the real reasons!

Ismail Bin Zakkaria Zakkaria
Oct 23, 2011 - Public
The first step is for the U.S. government and its allies to make a
clear decision to build moderate networks and to create an explicit link
between this goal and overall U.S. strategy and programs. Effective
implementation of this strategy requires the creation of an institutional
structure within the U.S. government to guide, support, oversee, and
continuously monitor the effort. Within the framework of this structure,
the U.S. government must build up the necessary expertise and
capacity to execute the strategy, which includes

1. An ever-evolving and ever-sharpening set of criteria that distinguishes
true moderates from opportunists and from extremists
camouflaged as moderates, and liberal secularists from authoritarian
secularists. The U.S. government needs to have the ability
to make situational decisions to knowingly and for tactical
reasons support individuals outside of that range under specific
circumstances.

2. An international database of partners (individuals, groups, organizations,
institutions, parties, etc.)

3. Mechanisms for monitoring, refining, and overseeing programs,
projects, and decisions. These should include a feedback loop to
allow for inputs and corrections from those partners who have
been found to be most trustworthy.
From the book called "Building Moderate Muslim Networks" by Rand Corporations
Posted by: Angiting Snore1647   2012-09-21 18:39  

#4  

Pamela Geller strikes at the Mohammedans again.
Posted by: Anginens Clunk4837   2012-09-21 10:31  

#3  "Defeat jihad" IS a clear swipe against radical Muslims. That's a feature, not a bug.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418   2012-09-21 09:05  

#2  The history of thriving civilizations appear to have at least one major factor in common. They require a populous that remains CIVIL!

Civility is guaranteed through the Rule of Law. Most, if not everyone here is aware of the Judeo-Christian basis of our Rule of Law. Most here are also aware of the basis of so called Muslim Law.

Therein lies the problem. Like oil and water, the two do not mix well. In the oil patch, a pipeline leak can result in contaminated water supplies. If livestock, cows in particular find crude oil on the surface of the ground, or in a pond, they will stand there and drink it until they fall over dead.
Posted by: Besoeker   2012-09-21 07:21  

#1  The ad is a clear swipe against radical Muslims.

Only if you consider radical Muslims to be uncivilized savages.
Posted by: SteveS   2012-09-21 01:23  

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