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| Cambridge MA "a progressive town, the People's Republic, and how could this be in our midst?" | |
| 2013-04-21 | |
| Cambridge prides itself on embracing people from across the world, people of different religions and cultures, people, in other words, like Tamerlan and Dzhokhor Tsarnaev. Embracing, as they are, the notion that "progress" in any direction -- up, down, left, right, in, out -- is good.
They attended Cambridge Rindge and Latin, the city's Âonly public high school, where the student body includes teenagers from 80 nations. They found religious brethren at the Islamic Society of Boston on Prospect Street, a short walk from their home on Norfolk Street, near Central Square. They found friends, coaches, mentors. Dzhokhor even won a scholarship from the city. And then it all shattered on Friday... Perhaps more than anywhere else, people here were grasping for Âanswers. "This is a progressive town, the People's Republic, and how could this be in our midst?" said Larry Aaronson, a longtime Rindge and Latin teacher who knew Dzhokhor and who lives three doors down from the brothers on Norfolk Street. "I'm at a loss. I'm at a total and complete loss." Peter Payack, the assistant wrestling coach at Rindge and Latin, said Dzhokhor wrestled on the team for three years and was captain for two years and a Greater Boston League all-star.... Payack, who has run the Marathon 24 times and often wears his blue-and-yellow Marathon jacket around ÂCambridge, said he was saddened that Dzhokhor has been accused of targeting a race that he knew his coach loved. "It was like a bomb going off in my heart this morning," ÂPayack said. City leaders said they expected there would have to be some soul-searching in the days ahead. "That we have a relationship to the people who perpetrated this, it does cause one pause, because we all truly believe we are the best community we could be," Councilor Kenneth E. Reeves said. "I would almost think the Cambridge experience couldn't incubate a terrorist because that's how oriented toward peace and community this city believes itself to be." I signed a memorial book in the vestibule of St. Paul's in Cambridge the Sunday after 9/11, dedicated to the memory of parishioners & residents of Cambridge killed during the hijackings. 9/11 apparently made little impression on the city. | |
| Posted by:Anguper Hupomosing9418 |
| #30 it was in the red-ink-producing Boston Globe, so only a few Americans saw it which is going nice and cheap for the Koch Brothers to buy it. |
| Posted by: tipper 2013-04-21 23:02 |
| #29 It's really thou shalt not murder. |
| Posted by: Bright Pebbles 2013-04-21 20:51 |
| #28 In Islam I believe it's Thou shalt not kill another muslim'. Killing Christians, Jews, and muslims-you-don't-consider-muslim-enough is A-OK - the more the merrier! |
| Posted by: CrazyFool 2013-04-21 20:42 |
| #27 One of Moses' Ten Commandments is "Thou shall not Kill", which Islam contradicts. |
| Posted by: JosephMendiola 2013-04-21 19:49 |
| #26 I started on Rantburg right around 9/11 also. Here's a link to What Is a 'False Flag' Attack, and What Does Boston Have to Do with This? |
| Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 2013-04-21 19:12 |
| #25 I remember, Fred. That was when I began to regularly |
| Posted by: Frank G 2013-04-21 19:02 |
| #24 9-12 |
| Posted by: Fred 2013-04-21 18:35 |
| #23 kinda a funny when the wish bubble bursts That is merely a temporary phenomenon. Just like the Housing Bubble, the Denial Bubble will re-construct itself. Even on the afternoon of 9/11, a casual search of the internet turned up the beginnings of the deniers, distorters, and agenda pushers. This same phenomenon is already happening. Google is your friend, just remember that information now on the internet may be gone in 5 minutes. |
| Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 2013-04-21 18:24 |
| #22 kinda a funny when the wish bubble bursts. |
| Posted by: Jack Salami 2013-04-21 17:56 |
| #21 #14: "Your system does not work and is suicide on the installment plan." As long as no innocent people get hurt .... |
| Posted by: Barbara 2013-04-21 17:36 |
| #20 "But the crocodile promised he'd eat someone else next!" |
| Posted by: Bright Pebbles 2013-04-21 17:11 |
| #19 Sorry tu but he only gets it a little bit. People that get it don't say s#!t like this: The Tsarnaev brothers are responsible for twisting a great religion to foment hatred. That "great" religion is preached just that way by mullahs and imams and emirs world wide. Moderate Muslims cheer the Tsarnaevs on it's only apostate Muslims that don't believe in these evil tactics. Tactics that are meant to eventuate the subjugation of the world. |
| Posted by: AlanC 2013-04-21 16:25 |
#18 Here's another item I considered a 'gem', from the NY Post online. It will probably be available for some time, and contradicts the current internet meme that the two suspects on their Thursday night shooting and explosive spree, allowed their carjack victim to go free (a meme which never made sense):The Boston Marathon bombers took a man captive Thursday night during a carjacking that set off a frenzied police chase. IIRC, photos posted on the 'net show the hijacked vehicle had a COEXIST sticker on the back. I doubt there will be a followup article that brings both these items together in one piece. |
| Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 2013-04-21 16:07 |
| #17 fortunately, it was in the red-ink-producing Boston Globe, so only a few Americans saw it Please note the original article in this whole thread was from the Boston Globe online, which dropped its paywall right after the Marathon bombs went off. I have been watching it the entire week since. I knew there would be some real gems of reporting in it, very much like the situation right after 9/11. The original article was a gem, IMNSHO. The opinion piece was the usual rot one might expect. The Boston Globe paywall goes up again tomorrow. Anyone interested in reading the leading local paper's reporting of this past week in its entirety had better catch up on it while they still can. |
| Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 2013-04-21 15:56 |
| #16 At least one Globie gets it. At least for today... I was on an NPR show this morning, talking as I drove back from Cambridge to write this column, and a caller came on the air and started talking about how we’ve got to look in the mirror and ask what we as Americans have done to create angry young men like this. I almost drove off the road. No one who lost their life or their limbs on Boylston Street last Monday did anything to create angry young men like this. And I know that 8-year-old Martin Richard, a beautiful little boy from Dorchester who was killed by a bomb the authorities say the Tsarnaev brothers prepared and left near the finish line of the Boston Marathon, never hurt a soul. He was a kind little boy who was unfailingly nice to his classmate, the daughter of the Boston firefighter who knelt over his body. Sean Collier, the 26-year-old MIT police officer who was shot to death Thursday night, was a wonderful young man. He worked as a civilian for the Somerville Police Department, but desperately wanted to be a cop. He was thrilled when he got the call to join the MIT force last year, and he was willing to put his life on the line for all of us, as he did late Thursday night when he responded to a call in Kendall Square and was, the police say, executed by the Tsarnaev brothers before he could even get out of his cruiser. I am willing to bet my life on the certainty that Sean Collier would have laid down his life for anybody, including immigrants from Kyrgyzstan or Chechnya. In the end, he did lay down his life, trying to protect others. I don’t want to listen to how innocent people bear some responsibility for creating the twisted minds of the Tsarnaev brothers, who emerged from the break up of a totalitarian form of government that collapsed under the weight of ordinary people wanting freedom. The Tsarnaev brothers are responsible for twisting a great religion to foment hatred. They don’t speak for Muslims any more than I speak for overweight Irish-American guys who like to play hockey. It would be a horrific insult to their victims, and to the unimaginably brave first responders who ran toward the bombs last Monday, if there is a backlash against Muslims. But, please, spare me the guilt. At least let’s see how this ends. At least let us bury our dead first. At least let us heal our wounded. At least let us take care of our first responders. Then maybe I’ll listen to “what did we do to make them hate us” claptrap. Then maybe I’ll go to some soul-searching debate about how our foreign policy is screwed up and how we’re creating too many enemies and too few allies. But then, maybe I won’t. |
| Posted by: tu3031 2013-04-21 15:54 |
| #15 But the old, depressing politics of terror will ultimately break out again and continue to divide the country along ideological lines -- unless today's generation does something to stop it. Is it too much to point out that the last several mass murders including 911 were committed by the members younger generation? |
| Posted by: badanov 2013-04-21 15:33 |
| #14 The Cambridge so-called liberals project their phony kumbayah values on everything and wonder why it literally blew up in their faces. The answer is simple. There are bad people out there that do not adhere to your looney values. They hate you and want to kill you and your way of life and values. That is the way of the world. Get used to it and learn Jeff Cooper's Color Code system of situational awareness. Take responsibility for your and your family's safety. Your system does not work and is suicide on the installment plan. Your choice. |
| Posted by: Alaska Paul 2013-04-21 15:30 |
| #13 fortunately, it was in the red-ink-producing Boston Globe, so only a few Americans saw it |
| Posted by: Frank G 2013-04-21 15:19 |
| #12 Boston Globe opinion writer going back to the same old same old today: To fight the so-called war on terror, the country gave up a degree of privacy and freedom in exchange for safety and security, some of it illusory. What happened at the Boston Marathon will doubtless inspire more restrictions. There will be a brief moment of rallying, during which New York Yankees fans will sing “Sweet Caroline.” But the old, depressing politics of terror will ultimately break out again and continue to divide the country along ideological lines — unless today’s generation does something to stop it. |
| Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 2013-04-21 14:57 |
| #11 The Left is an ideology of hate. How could this not be in your midst? Also, having actually lived in Cambridge (briefly), let me add on a personal note that my surprise meter is stuck on zero... |
| Posted by: Iblis 2013-04-21 14:40 |
| #10 "This is a progressive town, the People's Republic, and how could this be in our midst?" Numbers and geography. There are plenty of Chechens, Russians, Syrians, Middle Easterners. Afghans, Somalis, etc. on the Eastern seaboard. It's closer to 'home'. Not so many on the Western coast, and relatively few in places like San Francisco. The Iranian refugees that fled from the mullahs were smart: a significant majority settled in the Los Angeles area. If the Islamists from Southeast Asia ever get an idea to move or expand their influence, well... |
| Posted by: Pappy 2013-04-21 13:25 |
| #9 Anybody want to take a shot at diagramming those sentences? Posted by Matt Bovine, bloviating arrogance and denial ? |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2013-04-21 12:26 |
| #8 NS, you must have run into the exceptions; real friends are hard to make and keep around here and I've lived in or near Boston for 40+ years. The best description I can come up with for the elites of Boston & Cambridge are that they evince similar feelings to the noblesse oblige of the European Colonial period. They stride casually, smirking all the way, down the streets bestowing a few coins on the beggars and street performers wallowing in their own beneficence. They all act like they think they're the Pope bestowing their wonderfulness on the masses. |
| Posted by: AlanC 2013-04-21 11:51 |
| #7 That we have a relationship to the people who perpetrated this, it does cause one pause, because we all truly believe we are the best community we could be, I would almost think the Cambridge experience couldn't incubate a terrorist because that's how oriented toward peace and community this city believes itself to be. Anybody want to take a shot at diagramming those sentences? |
| Posted by: Matt 2013-04-21 11:35 |
| #6 Lived in Belmont, MA two years. Folks are superficially hard to get to know but once friends, there are none better. It is a shame this tragedy had to happen, but it is no coincidence that it happened in the town of Richard Saltonstall. The multi-cultural acceptance of non-Americans and the rejection of and condescension toward other Americans' values is rampant throughout the holier-than-thou region. That's how it is with the Elect. But now the nest of the Hub (of the universe) has been fouled. It won't happen overnight, but the Old Testament stiff-neckedness that underlies the region's contempt for the rest of the US will ultimately be turned toward Islam. When this is complete and the Puritans and Backcountry are united in there conviction that this too must end, the Jihadis and those who harbor them will understand what happened in Dresden in 1945. Poor target selection by the Jihadis. Turned an ally into an enemy. |
| Posted by: Nimble Spemble 2013-04-21 10:13 |
| #5 Well-said, NMU. Except, like Alan, I also sneer at those arrogant bastards. "How could this be in our midst?" Easy, you idiot. You're arrogant, self-centered, clueless jackasses (apologies to normal jackasses everywhere) who refuse to understand or even acknowledge that there are lots of people from all over the world (mostly of one particular "religion") who HATE AMERICA AND ALL IT STANDS FOR, INCLUDING YOU. It's telling that this clown is most upset that this "happened" to them Suck it, fool. >:-( |
| Posted by: Barbara 2013-04-21 10:05 |
| #4 Traditional New Englanders? |
| Posted by: Fred 2013-04-21 08:50 |
| #3 no mo uro, well said. I don't gloat but I do sneer. My son and daughter in law (late 20's) have lived in Cambridge and environs for the last 6 years. Cambridge is only tolerant if you buy into the left-wing meme lock, stock and barrel. The people are not friendly in general. They are smug, self-satisfied and superior. It's hard to walk down the street without wanting to slap someone. Ironically, this son is a musician that went on a tour with his band and what city did he say was the friendliest and most welcoming? Was it one of the NE enclaves? No, it was Iowa City, followed by one of his southern stops. His was not a country western or southern band, it was an alternative rock group (lousy to me ;^) but they were welcomed by all in fly-over country. That's NOT Cambridge, their tolerance amounts to smirking equally at anyone (everyone) they judge to be their inferiors. It really is a mean and nasty place from an intellectual/emotional perspective. Not physically violent, but really nasty. |
| Posted by: AlanC 2013-04-21 08:43 |
| #2 "This is a progressive town, the People's Republic, and how could this be in our midst?" said Larry Aaronson, a longtime Rindge and Latin teacher who knew Dzhokhor and who lives three doors down from the brothers on Norfolk Street. "I'm at a loss. I'm at a total and complete loss." I gloat. It is a joyless gloating, but I gloat. How DARE you, mister public school union teacher/NPR listening pseudointellectual/holier-than-thou leftist/worshipper of the postmodern, anti-Western memeset - how DARE you go through life believing that you are better, smarter, and more well informed than us bitter-clinger untermensch (not my words, but the words of YOUR president)? You bastard. WE were right all along, and you act surprised and offer no apologies to those you treat as less than human. I am NOT above crowing, "I told you so". So now the wages of your arrogance and condescension and self-superior attitude and bigotry against me and mine - that is to say, this attack from within your precious tender Cambridge enclave - have shattered your crappy little narrative. Good. The shame is that more people had to suffer and die for the cluebat to have an effect on your sorry self. You should have figured it out twelve years ago when all of us ignunt subhuman bitter-clingers did, but instead you told yourself that you were just so much better and smarter than people like me with our Christianity and our guns and our beliefs in things like limited government and a strong national defense. No, instead of getting off your high horse and at least trying to understand that we may have been onto something, it suited your worldview to say that people like me were unenlightened Neanderthals. Not "the right kind of white people, doncha know". I gloat. |
| Posted by: no mo uro 2013-04-21 06:58 |
| #1 And at the top of the list of folks we've not heard from in reference to Mr. Tsarnaev and his Chechen clan, sits CIA Director Brennan. How remarkable. Rico, would you get me the Anwar al-Awlaki and Nadal Hasan files please ? |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2013-04-21 03:31 |