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Home Front: Culture Wars
CO2 Tops 400 ppm!
2013-05-11
Human influence on the Earth's atmosphere touched what climate scientists called a dire milestone Friday as concentrations of heat-trapping carbon dioxide nudged up to a level unseen in about 3 million to 5 million years -- long before modern humans.
Gee, I wonder if they had a climate back then?
A monitoring station in Hawaii recorded carbon dioxide concentrations of 400 parts per million Friday, dramatically up from the 316 parts per million recorded when the station made its first measurements in 1958. The monitor, high atop the Mauna Loa volcano, offers the longest-running record of atmospheric carbon dioxide measured directly from the air.

"[The] increase is not a surprise to scientists," said Pieter Tans, a senior scientist at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. "The evidence is conclusive that the strong growth of global [carbon dioxide] emissions from the burning of coal, oil and natural gas is driving the acceleration."

Climate scientist Joanna Haigh of Imperial College London said the particular figure reached Friday -- 400 parts per million -- holds no particular significance except as a milestone.
So there is some truth in this article!
"It gives us the chance to mark the ongoing increase in [carbon dioxide] concentration and talk about why it's a problem for the climate."

Scientists have firmly linked rising atmospheric carbon dioxide to higher global temperatures, which have increased nearly a degree Fahrenheit, on average, since 1950.
I wish they could agree on how much the climate has warmed since when. It'd make their stories so much more ... credible.
Air bubbles trapped in Antarctic ice cores show that, in the past 800,000 years, airborne concentrations remained lower than 400 parts per million. And scientists at the Scripps Institution of Oceanography and elsewhere have estimated that about 3 million to 5 million years have passed since so much carbon dioxide wafted in the Earth's atmosphere. The temperature during that period, known as the Pliocene Epoch, was 5 to 7 degrees warmer than today, with seas tens of feet higher.
So why isn't it 5-7 degrees warmed with the seas tens of feet higher NOW? Can your models explain that?
Airborne concentrations of carbon dioxide vary by season and location on Earth. But the measurements from the Mauna Loa monitor, which is run by Scripps, are considered the gold standard. Concentrations there are plotted on the iconic Keeling Curve, named after scientist Charles David Keeling, who initiated the measurements in 1958. At that time, the carbon dioxide level was 316 parts per million.
Plotted on a curve? What is this, sixth-grade science? Why does it need to be plotted on a curve? Is that how they get the "hockey stick" curve? Actually, I suspect the writers have no idea what they are writing about, except of course, CO2 = BAD.
Posted by:Bobby

#16  #12 PLEASE somebody change CO@ to CO2 in the headline!

Preview is, indeed, good. Fixed, Bobby dear.
Posted by: trailing wife   2013-05-11 18:32  

#15  All you Bastard chilrun of Gaia are guilty of breathing, the original sin and copulating like there's ain't no tomorrow, which leads to more breathing and consuming and dancin and finger-snapping, driving SUV and eating too damn much for your own good, not to mention buying guns, killin Bambi and going on VACATION and more breathing.



Bottom line, if most of you fuckers would just kill yourself I'd have more shit and wymens.

Posted by: Shipman   2013-05-11 18:32  

#14  Richard, I don't think the scientists are saying that the CO2 is toxic - it would have to be 20-30 times to even make people feel drowsy. Their claim is that this will immediately cause the temperature to skyrocket, all the ice to melt, the seas to inundate Denver, etc. etc. etc. So we should all give them more money to do studies. And completely eviscerating the economy to prevent this.

What they can't seem to explain is why global temperatures haven't actually risen in the last 10 years.
Posted by: Rambler in Virginia   2013-05-11 18:08  

#13  OK Mr Climate Expert Guy I have one question, Exactly what temperature should it be?
Posted by: BrerRabbit   2013-05-11 16:13  

#12  PLEASE somebody change CO@ to CO2 in the headline!

I gotta remember to look at the headline, too, in "Preview"!
Posted by: Bobby   2013-05-11 16:01  

#11  Our neighbor runs his greenhouse at ~1,000 PPM CO2. Has a nifty little generator and everything. On the weekends, he and his wife will work in there all day with seemingly no issues.

He has nice looking flowers and a great crop of vegetables in there, too.
Posted by: Mullah Richard   2013-05-11 15:58  

#10  We're all doomed, says experts.
Posted by: tipper   2013-05-11 15:45  

#9  This is good news for my garden, right?
Posted by: Raj   2013-05-11 15:25  

#8  Was a news report that the Vog (volcanic fog) was acting up again on the Big Island... wonder if their equipment is picking up on that.
Posted by: Mercutio   2013-05-11 14:58  

#7  20% higher is nothing.... it's run much higher than that - but that doesn't count since it was during an ice age.
Posted by: Shipman   2013-05-11 14:47  

#6  Not to mention that during the Jurassic CO2 was 20% higher than now. All life sure didn't die out, that's for sure!
Posted by: DarthVader   2013-05-11 13:44  

#5  Speaking of sulfur dioxide emissions...Mt. Agustine, a relatively small volcano in Cook Inlet in Alaska emits SO2. When it is steaming, it emits 500 tons a day. When it is erupting, it emitted 6500 tons a day. Where was the EPA then?
Posted by: Alaska Paul   2013-05-11 13:38  

#4  ...because of the read-out of a station located on a volcano?

Wonder what the sulfur emissions were that day...
Posted by: Steve White   2013-05-11 13:04  

#3  danggit, that's the third time this morning I've bonked my head.

Wait a second....I'm supposed to sell the farm and family because of the read-out of a station located on a volcano? Which way is the wind blowing today?
Posted by: swksvolFF   2013-05-11 11:56  

#2  Memo to scientifically ignorant media, HUMANS exhale CO2, as does every living mammal, reptile and amphibian. PLANTS like CO2 and convert it to oxygen and nutrients for you vegans to eat.

Just goes to show you what being stoned all the way through high school and college does for our journalist/door stop/rock.
Posted by: Bill Clinton   2013-05-11 11:48  

#1  At some point CO2 blocks all the wavelengths it's going to block, and more CO2 does nothing - except make plants grow better.
Posted by: Titus Ulans4144   2013-05-11 11:34  

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