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| 2013-09-29 |
| [MCCLATCHYDC] Republicans rallied around a budget plan Saturday to keep the government open but delay the new health care law for a year, storming toward a showdown with Democrats that looked increasingly likely to shut down the government when the current fiscal year ends Monday night. Republicans in the House of Representatives showed unusual unity Saturday in endorsing the plan, then took it to the full House for expected approval. Their proposal would keep the government funded through Dec. 15, delay the health care law, permanently repeal a 2.3 percent medical device tax that helps fund the health care plan and assure military personnel would be paid if the government shuts down. The Senate is not scheduled to return to session until Monday afternoon, 10 hours before the fiscal year ends. Democrats who control the Senate said they wouldn't negotiate or consider the House proposal, leaving no apparent path to compromise on either side in the waning hours before money runs out for many parts of the government not on automatic spending such as Social Security or considered essential such as the military. |
| Posted by:Fred |
| #17 House passed it today. Troops can't go out moonlighting to pay for their homesteads that... say welfare people could. They are in Combat. What a Reprehensible Commander in Chief. |
| Posted by: newc 2013-09-29 23:35 |
| #16 ION China has opened fire on Japan + PHIL + India, POTUS Obama says the US can't intervene because we can no longer econ afford to go to war, + will have to seriously struggle to find military resourcesto fight like Thatcherite Britain did vee Argentina back in the first Falklands war, China demands the US leave East Asia + Guam-Westpac immediately unless the US wishes to escalate to a nuclear conflict. Film at 11. |
| Posted by: JosephMendiola 2013-09-29 20:46 |
| #15 A government shutdown will cause pain for the half of the population that directly depends on it and also for most of the rest, who depend on being able to get permits, to get through airports, to transfer bank funds, etc. Shut down government, shut down the economy. They (the government power brokers) can destroy us before we ever get a chance to vote them out. But if they push too hard the Tree of Liberty may get manured. |
| Posted by: Glenmore 2013-09-29 18:06 |
| #14 Hell, if they shut down the government too long, we might grow to like it. |
| Posted by: JohnQC 2013-09-29 18:00 |
| #13 Republicans are trying to protect military pay if there is a shutdown. Reid will block this, because the Dems want any shutdown to be as painful as possible. Same scenario as sequestration. |
| Posted by: Spilet Jones8294 2013-09-29 17:54 |
| #12 I know that the Democrats threaten that, but will it really happen? According to the Seattle Times, the TSA, Border patrol and VA functions related to disabilities will continue; all others, not so clear. We are planning on hitting the 401 or other investments if needed. |
| Posted by: USN, Ret. 2013-09-29 17:40 |
| #11 4:15 CT on Friday: "In the event of a Government Shutdown on October 1, 2013, the federal Judiciary will remain open for business for approximately 10 business days. On or around October 15, 2013, the Judiciary will reassess its situation and provide further guidance. All proceedings and deadlines remain in effect as scheduled, unless otherwise advised." |
| Posted by: Matt 2013-09-29 15:00 |
| #10 Wikipedia has an article on it. Clinton wanted more spending on health, education, environment, etc. Repubs wanted to limit the debt. There was no budget agreed upon, so a continuing funding resolution was proposed, no agreement was made so the "non essential" govt functions were suspended till things were worked out. The problem now is that the there is no way out of the stalemate, like under Clinton but on steroids. If we shut down, the systemic problems are still not solved. If we go along with O's spending, the federal govt will spend itself into financial collapse. Take your pick. |
| Posted by: Alaska Paul 2013-09-29 14:54 |
| #9 On the one hand, I politically like this idea; on the other financial side I don't; we will go from 3 to one paycheck; my retirement check and Mrs' Ret's civil service check. will retirement checks be stopped? I know that the Democrats threaten that, but will it really happen? We had a government shutdown before -- under Clinton? -- does anyone remember what happened then? |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2013-09-29 14:12 |
| #8 As long as the Peanut AlotMent is okay, no problem. |
| Posted by: Shipman 2013-09-29 13:57 |
| #7 On the one hand, I politically like this idea; on the other financial side I don't; we will go from 3 to one paycheck; my retirement check and Mrs' Ret's civil service check. She opined the other night that she and others @ her place of employment expect federal workers to be used more and more as political pawns in the next couple of years. makes retirement suddenly look better. |
| Posted by: USN, Ret. 2013-09-29 11:10 |
| #6 It'll be interesting to see what parts of the IRS get shutdown; will report on that if this happens (and I hope it does). |
| Posted by: Raj 2013-09-29 10:52 |
| #5 I can last about 5 months, if they shut down My Social security, I hope they do shut down the Government. See how Obama gets along WITHOUT his paycheck. |
| Posted by: Redneck Jim 2013-09-29 10:37 |
| #4 Furthermore, President B.O. has stated that he would veto such measures if they ever reached his desk. Well, at least we've found something that will return him to his desk. |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2013-09-29 03:52 |
| #3 Yay! Government off our backs, and they can't grow the debt! Just the way I like it. |
| Posted by: gorb 2013-09-29 02:38 |
| #2 Will shutdown include EPA swat teams? |
| Posted by: g(r)omgoru 2013-09-29 01:44 |
| #1 Champ has vowed not to negotiate. That means he owns any shutdown. This is not '96. This is not Bill Clinton. |
| Posted by: Herb Big Foot4027 2013-09-29 00:13 |