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U.S. broke international law by killing civilians with drones: rights groups
2013-10-23
[REUTERS] Human rights groups on Tuesday accused the United States of breaking international law and perhaps committing war crimes by killing civilians in missile and drone strikes that were intended to hit forces of Evil in Pakistain and Yemen.

Amnesia Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch
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released separate reports detailing the deaths of dozens of civilians in the two countries. They urged the B.O. regime and Congress to investigate, and end a policy of secrecy on the attacks.

"In some of the cases we looked at ... they appear to be war crimes, but really the full picture is for the U.S. authorities to reveal," Mustafa Qadri, Pakistain researcher at Amnesia Amnesty International, said after describing the death of a 68-year-old Pak grandmother in an alleged drone strike.

"We are saying for the U.S. authorities to come clean," he said at a joint news conference with Human Rights Watch.

Responding to the reports, White House front man Jay Carney said B.O. regime officials "take the matter of civilian casualties enormously seriously." He said he could not speak to specific operations, but that U.S. policies met international and domestic legal obligations and the standard of "near certainty" that civilians would not be hit.

U.S. officials have argued that any drone strikes are very carefully targeted and that civilian casualties have been kept to a bare minimum, possibly in the low dozens.

Letta Tayler of Human Rights Watch said her organization had found violations of international law when civilians were "indiscriminately" killed in Yemen.

In a September 2, 2012, attack, the target - an alleged al Qaeda Death Eater, Abd al-Raouf al-Dahab, - was "nowhere in sight" when the United States hit a passenger van and killed 12 people returning from the market, she said.

"Their loved ones found their charred bodies in pieces on the roadside, dusted in flour and sugar that they were bringing home to their families," Tayler told news hounds.

Both the Amnesia Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch reports looked at handful of U.S. attacks in Pakistain and Yemen to urge transparency and accountability in U.S. policy.

U.S. drone strikes in Pakistain and Yemen increased dramatically after President Barack Obama
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took office in 2009, and the pilotless aerial vehicles became a key part of the fight against al Qaeda. More recently the number of strikes has slowed.

The United States has also used drones over Afghanistan, Somalia, Libya, and Iraq, and this year received approval to base drones in Niger.
Posted by:Fred

#15  Being a terrorist and a civilian are not mutually exclusive. Just ask Bill Ayers.
Posted by: airandee   2013-10-23 18:26  

#14  This can't be right. Didn't Barry win a Nobel Peace Prize???
Posted by: tu3031   2013-10-23 18:23  

#13  Take off and nuke it from orbit - it's the only way to be sure.
Posted by: Barbara   2013-10-23 15:34  

#12  2 rounds? If we ever did arclight Islamabad I foresee a 2 week Rantbender.
Posted by: Shipman   2013-10-23 13:53  

#11  Maybe we should arclight Islamabad

Drinks!

And if we actually do Islamabad, the next two rounds are on me.
Posted by: SteveS   2013-10-23 12:55  

#10  By 'international law' I doubt they mean the Geneva Convention which, as I understand it, states that if an illegal combatant (i.e. terrorist) hides in, behind, and among the civilian population then any resulting civilian deaths are on *their* heads.

Or maybe AmNasty International and Human Rights Abusers Watch have a version with all those 'icky-hold-people-responsible' parts removed.
Posted by: CrazyFool   2013-10-23 12:32  

#9  The drone strikes allow THE ONE to stay above the fray and play omnipotent.

To be fair, the combination of "no casualties" and an endearment for technology has been a political mindset for decades, especially on the leftward side.

It's just that Mr. Obama has been a disappointment to the Left, and now we're seeing the results.
Posted by: Pappy   2013-10-23 12:26  

#8  Internationl law? Did any Rantburger knoqw of when there elections for a Repentative in that International Congress who approves International Law? Because if by International Law they intend some pact aapproved by such lovely people as The Saudis, the Iranians, Burma's Junta, the Chinese governement and Kim Jong un I am afid I would have to tell them to stuff their International Law in some place I don't want to mention in front of ladies.
Posted by: JFM   2013-10-23 12:10  

#7  Maybe we should arclight Islamabad until they hand over Zawahiri.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305   2013-10-23 12:03  

#6  Don't forget Obama's need to be able to decide who lives another day and who dies. he just loves playing god...
Posted by: CrazyFool   2013-10-23 11:18  

#5  "play" being the keyword here
Posted by: European Conservative   2013-10-23 11:13  

#4  Well, the definition of "civilian" in an asymmetrical conflict, i.e., a terrorist environment is dicey. One group's civilian is another's enemy combatant.

I am afraid the drone strikes are bad policy. We have proven we can go anywhere and snatch just about anybody we want anytime we want. Killing a HVT instead of snatching and questioning is denying us a significant amount of valuable intelligence.

Nothing beats boots on the ground going through the personal effects of a high value target for finding interesting information.

The drone strikes allow THE ONE to stay above the fray and play omnipotent.
Posted by: Bill Clinton   2013-10-23 10:30  

#3  Sacking a few more general officers must come first P2k.
Posted by: Besoeker   2013-10-23 08:28  

#2  Obviously this is a racist act. I sense a visit from the IRS in the near future. Could put a ding in that 'non-profit' status undermining that "let's separate the rubes from their money" donation campaign letter.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2013-10-23 08:14  

#1  Maybe Pakistanis should stop drinking tea?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2013-10-23 01:41  

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