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Report: N.Korea's ICBM Prototypes Getting 'Scary Good'
2013-11-07
A top research group says prototype ballistic missiles seen at recent North Korean military parades may be more advanced than earlier believed, and may even be sophisticated enough to threaten the U.S. west coast.
The things these guys can do with paper-maiché...
Many Western analysts dismissed the KN-08 missiles as primitive, non-operational mockups when they appeared in photos at Pyongyang military parades in April 2012 and again in July of this year, but the U.S.-Korea Institute at Johns Hopkins University said Tuesday that the missiles, even if fakes, appear to be getting more advanced, and have reached the point of being what it called "scary good."

The institute's report said the missile mockups appear to show North Korea can assemble components and technologies "good enough to produce missiles with theoretical ranges from 5,500 to over 11,000 kilometers." That would easily be far enough for North Korea to make good on its threats of being able to strike the U.S. mainland with a nuclear warhead.

The report cautioned the KN-08s are "almost certainly" non-operational and would need to be tested at least once. It cautioned, though, that a test could occur any time, given the advanced state of the mockup hardware and recent satellite photos showing upgrades at North Korea's main missile launch site.

North Korea is already believed to have cleared a number of technological hurdles needed for an ICBM when it used its Unha-3 carrier to successfully launch a satellite into space last December. The move was portrayed by the North as a peaceful scientific mission but condemned by the UN as a banned long-range missile test.
Which did nothing to stop the Norks from building the next one...
There are other obstacles North Korea would face in delivering a nuclear warhead to the United States. It is unclear if North Korea's nuclear bombs are small and reliable enough to be placed on such a long-range missile. Experts say the North also still needs to make progress on designing a re-entry vehicle that could guide any intercontinental ballistic missile back to Earth after reaching orbit.

However, the U.S.-Korea Institute said the North's missile technology seems to be getting more advanced. It said that at the 2012 parade, the KN-08 missiles on display had several design inconsistences and sported warheads "that appeared to be quite shoddily made." However, a little over a year later, at the July parade, it said the most obvious issues seemed to have been corrected.

Some have suggested the KN-08s are a hoax, meant to extract more foreign concessions in negotiations over North Korea's nuclear weapons program, but the U.S.-Korea Institute's paper said the simplest explanation is that the missile "may be exactly what it appears to be: a developmental road-mobile ICBM of limited capability but still able to threaten the continental United States."
Posted by:Steve White

#9  A mock-up of an SS-18 shouldn't be all that difficult, if you want the real scary.
Posted by: Shipman   2013-11-07 18:02  

#8  Wait til the Iranians give the Norks that hacked Photoshop source code!
Posted by: Frank G   2013-11-07 14:40  

#7  Ahhhhhhh, not to worry - the Iranians are going to get here first!
Posted by: Bobby   2013-11-07 13:10  

#6  ...huh..?

Based on the dubious logic that the NorKs are basing the fakes on prototype designs, the latter which, if they exist, appear to be viable-to-very-effective designs.
Posted by: Pappy   2013-11-07 13:02  

#5  You heard the case where, during WWII the Germans build this big fake airstrip out of wood. Complete with wooden tanks, wooden trucks and jeeps and even wooden people...

...until the allies air force came along and dropped a wooden bomb on it.
Posted by: CrazyFool   2013-11-07 12:38  

#4  "...the missiles, even if fakes, appear to be getting more advanced..."

...huh..?
Posted by: Uncle Phester   2013-11-07 12:32  

#3   TWO NORTH KOREA WARSHIPS SUNK, SCORES OF SAILORS REPORTEDLY KILLED

Wonder if it was an IFF/twitchy-finger problem?
Posted by: Pappy   2013-11-07 10:22  

#2  ...and may even be sophisticated enough to threaten the U.S. west coast

So, why the concern?
Posted by: Procopius2k   2013-11-07 08:04  

#1  ION Regional News ...

* WORLD NEWS > [Japan News] US ADMIRAL [PACOM Cdr Locklear] PREPARING FOR NORTH KOREA ICBM.

* SAME > [SCMP] CHINA DEMANDS "ACCURATE" NUCLEAR ACCOUNTING FROM JAPAN ON FUKUSHIMA.

I'm personally interpreting this as China covertly desiring to know Japan's curren spent fuel stockpile that be converted to NucBomb/Warhead production, as Japan suppos shutdown most or all of its NucEnergy facilities in the wake of Fukushima = 3-11.

* KYODO NEWS > [11/04/2013] TWO NORTH KOREA WARSHIPS SUNK, SCORES OF SAILORS REPORTEDLY KILLED.

RELATED BIG NEWS NETWORK > [International Herald Tribune] NORTH KOREAN SAILORS REPORTEDLY KILLED DURING OCTOBER SINKING, SOUTH KOREA SAYS THERE WAS NO [Naval or Military] CLASH.

The DPRK ship was suppos a SUB-CHASER.

USN CVN USS GEORGE WASHINGTON I'M STILL A'LOOKIN AT YOU.

* STARS-N-STRIPES > PHILIPPINES-US TALKS ON TROOP DEPLOYMENTS STALLS ON BASE CONTROL.

USA = D *** NG IT, PEOPLE WILL THINK ITS THE PHILIPPINES' BASES, NOT OURS!

And the fact that the US closed down Clark + Subic + turned over same to Manila has absolutely positively categorically undeniably nothing to do wid anything.

VERSUS

* RUSSIA TODAY > OP-ED: JAPAN TARGETS CHINA AS ISLANDS DISPUTE THREATENS TO BOIL OVER [unto Sino-Nippon mil conflict = War].

ARTIC = CHINESE SOA TOP OFFICIAL = JAPAN'S CONTROL OR DOMINATION OF THE WATERS AROUND THE DUSPUTED ISLANDS [Senkakus/Diaoyus], BE IT SOVEREIGN OR VIA 200-MILE JAPAN-CLAIMED EEZ, CLUTCHES AT THE THROAT OF CHINA AS PER ITS ABILITY TO ENTER [+ Exit] INTO [+ From] THE OPEN WATERS OF THE PACIFIC.

The Hell you say.

[MACAULAY CAULKIN "AAARRRRRGGHH" SLAPPY FACE here].

RELATED CHINA DAILY FORUM ...

> JAPAN-CHINA PUSH-N-SHOVE REACHING BEYOND BOILING POINT.
> POSTER THREAD: CONVENTIONAL WEAPONS NOT ENOUGH:
JAPAN MILITARY ACTIVELY PROVOKING PLA.

* TOPIX > [ABS-CBN News] "CHINA SHOULD [forcibly = unilaterally] TAKE MORE [disputed] PHILIPPINE TERRITORY", as per its "Cabbage Strategy" of defensive "layered sovereignty" around disputed islands.

PLA MGEN. ZHANG ZHAOZHONG.

* GLOBAL TIMES > JAPAN [temporarily = MilEx?]DEPLOYS SURFACE-TO-SHIP MISSLES IN OKINAWA [Miyako Island] | JAPAN DEPLOYS MISSLES IN STRATEGIC STRAIT.

Tokyo says was due to pre-scheduled MilEx, CHINA HOWEVER THINKS = FEARS THE MISSLES MAY BECOME PERMAMANENT, HENCE POSING A DIRECT THREAT TO CHINESE PLAN + COMMERCIAL SHIP MOVEMENTS [trade] THAT MUST PASS NEAR OKINAWA/MIYAKO.

* SAME > OPINION: [China's]"PEACEFUL RISE" WILL [ultimately or eventually come up against] MEET US CONTAINMENT.

* PEOPLE'S DAILY ONLINE > INTERNAL DIVISIONS AND
[Inter-Nation] WARINESS MEANS "ASIAN NATO" NOT ON CARDS.

And my favorite news today ...

* DEFENCE FORUM INDIA > WOULD US LEASE TO INDIA ITS NAVAL BASE ON GUAM?

Ditto POOR ECON, SEQUESTER, SHUTDOWN, + POST-SHUTDOWN affected USA to lease Guam to CHINA + PLA, in order to prevent an East Asian or NE Asian mil conflict, let alone NUCLEAR WAR, LIMITED NUCLEAR WAR OR LIMITED TACTICAL NUCLEAR WAR???

VERSUS

* BIG NEWS NETWORK > [Prison Planet] TOP SCIENTIST [David Suzuki] WARNS ANOTHER FUKUSHIMA QUAKE [major natural disaster] WOULD MEAN US [West Coast = NORAM Continental?] EVACUATION,
"BYE BYE JAPAN".
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2013-11-07 02:29  

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