You have commented 339 times on Rantburg.

Your Name
Your e-mail (optional)
Website (optional)
My Original Nic        Pic-a-Nic        Sorry. Comments have been closed on this article.
Bold Italic Underline Strike Bullet Blockquote Small Big Link Squish Foto Photo
China-Japan-Koreas
Carrier commander spoke to US ship captain after near collision
2013-12-19
[SCMP] The captain of aircraft carrier Liaoning had a brief, "professional" conversation with the commanding officer of the USS Cowpens after the near collision earlier this month between the American warship and a Chinese vessel.

The radio discussion between the two captains was one of several new details about the December 5 incident reported yesterday by the Global Times, a tabloid newspaper affiliated with the People's Daily.

The paper, citing an unidentified person, said that the Liaoning's commanding officer, Zhang Zheng, spoke directly to the Cowpens captain after the US missile cruiser was forced to stop in the South China Sea to avoid a collision with a Chinese ship from the Liaoning squadron.

The person told the paper that the American ship was bound to get a warning, since the Chinese Maritime Safety Administration had declared a month-long entry ban on the area on December 3 to accommodate exercises by the carrier group.

The US government has filed a formal protest over the incident, saying that the Cowpens was in international waters.

Two amphibious Chinese ships from the Liaoning squadron were sent to investigate after the US ship entered the drill area. One sounded a warning whistle, but it was ignored, the newspaper said.

The Chinese ships then sailed into the Cowpens' path to stop it, forcing the US captain to order a complete stop to avoid collision.

The newspaper also quoted an anonymous US defence official as saying that communications between the two sides was "very professional". It said another US defence official later told the Chinese side that maintaining communications could reduce the chance of mistakes.
Posted by:Fred

#4  BIGNEWSNETWORK> [Inquirer] CHINA WAS "IRRESPONSIBLE" IN STANDOFF AT SEA - US.

SecDef Hagel.

and

* RENSE > [Press TV] US MILITARY BUILDUP IN PACIFIC A "RECIPE FOR DISASTER": MADSEN. CHINA WILL NOT TOLERATE US IN ASIA-PACIFIC IFF IT SUPPORTS REGIONAL ALLIES AGZ CHINA.

* SAME > JAPAN'S RECKLESS ROAD TO WORLD WAR III |
[Japan Times] OPINION: DEFENSE BUILDUP WON'T BRING SECURITY.

True enuff - as said times before, it behooves "post-US", "Mahanist", future World #1 China = Rising China to make any PLA-led/centric Military or MilPol moves before US allies in East Asia modernize + become too potent - read, NUCLEAR-ARMED. DITTO BEFORE ANY US-LED GMD-TMD IS INSTALLED CIRCA 2018.

The above is also inclusive of so-called US "GLOBAL PROMPT STRIKE/PROMPT GLOBAL STRIKE", SPACE STRIKE + SPACE DEFENSE, ETC. "OFFENSIVE" ANDOR "DEFENSIVE" ORBITAL + DEEP SPACE MILSYS.

It should be quite clear from the MSM-Net + Chinese MilBlogs that mainland China no longer accepts the Cold War, post-Cold War, andor post-9-11 "status quo" vee the USA or even NATO-EU - MORESO UNDER THE PREMISES/TENETS OF OWG "GLOBALISM" INCLUD PAR "CO-SUPERPOWERS".

China sees US Milbases everywhere near its sovereign shores - it does NOT see any PLA Milbases near America's sovereign shores. OWG GLOBALIST "CO-SUPERPOWER" PARITY IS HENCE A FALSE OR FALLACIOUS CONCEPT UNLESS THE USA-N-ONLY-THE-USA UNILATERALLY, VOLUNTARILY OR FORCIBLY, PULLS BACK FROM EAST ASIA + PACIFIC, I.E. WESTPAC, TOWARDS HAWAII [EastPac]+ US WEST COAST.

* SNAFU/FUBAR = As good Politicos, neither pro-US nor anti-US OWG-NWO Globies are explaining ro describing the above to mainstream US Voters, THUS THE VERY VERY V-E-R-Y REAL GEOPOL/MILPOL DANGER THAT ANY MOVE AS ABOVE IN THE NAME OF GLOBALISM WILL INSTEAD BE INTERPRETED AS DE FACTO STRATEGIC WEAKNESS ON THE PART OF THE ALREADY PERT, MSM-NET ALLEGED "WEAK/DECLINING" USA.

'Tis what happens when good elected Govtcritters keep important information or concepts, etc. to themselves instead of telling or explaining same, etc. to the people like they are supposed to.

To paraph CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER > "SAY IT WID ME, BAMMERIKA, OOOOOOOOPPPPPPPSSSIES"!

Most Perts believe thata US-China conflict in East Asia can easily escalate to NUCLEAR WAR, MOST LIKELY LIMITED NUCWAR = LIMITED TACTICAL NUCWAR - to avoid any such potential US-China NucWar, will the Poor Econ, Sequester, SHutdown, + post-Shutdown, alleged Marxist-Anarchist-Globalist affected USA = Bammer Amerika give up historical influence + security roles in East Asia + Pacific in order to keep borrowing $$$ from China in support of the massive US Welfare-Nanny State, National-State-Global Socialism
[not-just-Big-or-Bigger-but-"BIGGEST" GOVT]+ post-2015 "borderless", "anti-sovereign" OWG Global Fed Unions e.g. NAU, Trans-Pac, + Trans-Atlantic "Partnerships".

I THINK SO.

* IIRC DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND > US IS NOW A POLICE STATE.
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2013-12-19 23:29  

#3  China has amphibious ships? Where do they park them when they take them out of the water? Enquiring minds want to know
Posted by: Cheaderhead   2013-12-19 18:27  

#2  I'd order "All watertight doors closed" and if they didn't move, ram them, then sue for damages.

Bet the UN would agree, that's a good way to soak up all the "Debt" China holds.
Posted by: Redneck Jim   2013-12-19 18:07  

#1  OTOH see INDIAN DEFENCE FORUM > [Ground Report.com] CHINA ACCUSES USS COWPENS OF TRACKING [PLA Navy]SUBMARINES IN CHINESE WATERS.

* RELATED STARS-N-STRIPES > CHINA ACCUSES US OF HARASSING [CV Liaoning]SQUADRON AT SEA.

* TOPIX > [BigNewsNetwork] US SECRETARY OF STATE [Kerry] SUPPORTS PHILIPPINES LEGAL ACTION AGZ CHINA.

Nice, but likely inefffective or meaningless was China had earlier formally pulled out of UNO Arbitration per the disputed South China Sea.

* SAME > [Record Pub = Patrick J. Buchanan?]ARE CHINESE DESIGNS ON JAPANESE ISLES WORTH GOING TO WAR!?

* SAME > [Atlas Shrugged] AMERICA: AFTER A BUMPY 2013, A WARY WORLD WATCHES [POTUS Bammer = USA].

* DEFENCE.PK/FORUMS > [Reuters]SENKAKUS SHOWDOWN - SEND IN THE DRONES. THE US MILITARY'S "GLOBAL HAWK" UNMANNED SPY PLANES WILL BE HEAVILY INVOLVED IN THE ACTIVITIES AROUND THE ISLANDS KNOWN AS DIAOYU IN CHINA.

versus

* INDIAN DEFENCE FORUM > US BACKS JAPAN ARMS DRIVE: KERRY.

Not what China, ASEAN? wanna hear???

* PACIFIC NEWS CENTER > WASHINGTON TIMES [WT]: CHINA EYES "GLOBAL HAWK" DRONE FLIGHTS [Counter-measures] FROM GUAM'S AAFB.

* STARS-N-STRIPES > BUDGET DEAL MAY SIGNAL [new = coming] ERA OF TINY ACHIEVEMENTS [Policy, Geopol Under-achievements].

* WORLD MILITARY FORUM > CHINA TESTING OF LR DF-41 ICBM CAPABLE OF STRIKING ANYWHERE IN US FUNDAMENTALLY ALTERS US-CHINA STRATEGIC BALANCE OF POWER.

* CHINA DAILY FORUM > [People's Daily Online]"WE WILL BLOCK YOU":PLAN ADMIRAL YIN ZHOU SAYS CHINA HAS RIGHT TO BLOCK US NAVY MOVEMENTS IN SOUTH CHINA SEA AS NEEDED.

Anytime, anywhere in its territories as China deems fit.

* WORLD NEWS >[Yahoo] BEHIND JAPAN'S NEW MILITARY PLANS: CHINA? [Japanese]NATIONALISM? OR BOTH?

DIALECTICISM = says answer is "Yes" to all of 'em.
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2013-12-19 02:17  

00:00