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NSA won't say whether it spies on the US Congress.
2014-01-06
Washington (CNN) - Congress is just like everyone else. That's the message the National Security Agency has for Sen. Bernie Sanders.
Did they spy on the Romney 2012 campaign? Did they turn over juicy info to the Obama campaign?
The independent senator from Vermont sent a letter to the agency Friday, asking whether it has or is "spying" on members of Congress and other elected American officials.
Seems like a fairly straightforward questions. Either you do, or you don't. Either you have, or you have not. How about senior leaders of the US Military, and State Governors ?
The NSA provided a preliminary response Saturday that said Congress has "the same privacy protections as all U.S. persons."
Appears we are no longer governed by an elected body, but rather ruled by shadowy individauls and intelligence agencies.
"NSA's authorities to collect signals intelligence data include procedures that protect the privacy of U.S. persons. Such protections are built into and cut across the entire process. Members of Congress have the same privacy protections as all U.S. persons," said the agency in a statement obtained by CNN.

The response goes on to promise the agency will continue to work with Congress on the issues - without ever addressing the senator's real question.
We "promise".... Nicely done, very nicely done.
Sanders defines "spying" in his letter as "gathering metadata on calls made from official or personal phones, content from websites visited or e-mails sent, or collecting any other data from a third party not made available to the general public in the regular course of business."
This entire "metadata" issue is very misleading and tiring. If you get the metadata, you get the number, person, location, system, and tower, etc. What else is needed ?
The NSA would say nothing more, except that it is further reviewing the letter.
They're above the law. They obviously don't have to say anything.
"We will continue to work to ensure that all Members of Congress, including Sen. Sanders, have information about NSA's mission, authorities, and programs to fully inform the discharge of their duties," read the statement.

Attorney General Eric Holder similarly deflected answering the same question at a congressional hearing last summer, telling Sen. Mark Kirk, R-Illinois, that the NSA had no "intent" to spy on Congress, but the issue was better discussed in private.

The intelligence community has faced heated criticism from the right and left in 2013 after Edward Snowden's leaks, and the intensity has continued fiercely in 2014.
The "criticism" has been fully justified and was not only prompted by the Snowden leaks, but other recently discovered federal agency anomalies as well.
On Thursday, the New York Times and the Guardian published scathing editorials that slammed the "violations" Snowden's leaks revealed and advocated a presidential pardon for him.

Among those charges was the notion that James Clapper Jr., the director of National Intelligence, lied to Congress while testifying last March that the NSA was not collecting data on millions of Americans.

National Intelligence was quick to push back, with a letter to the editor from by general counsel Robert Litt, published in the New York Times on Saturday.

"As a witness to the relevant events and a participant in them, I know that allegation is not true," writes Litt, explaining that Clapper misunderstood the question, but couldn't publicly correct his mistake "because the program involved was classified."
The correct answer would have been: The employment of these capabilities and methodologies are classified and cannot be discussed in an unclassified forum.
"This incident shows the difficulty of discussing classified information in an unclassified setting and the danger of inferring a person's state of mind from extemporaneous answers given under pressure."

Litt said that Clapper was "surprised and distressed" when he was informed by staff that he gave a misleading answer after the testimony.
You want a private conversation, take a walk in the WH rose garden.
Posted by:Besoeker

#5  So, the answer is yes.

Welcome the new Shadow Broker.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2014-01-06 16:00  

#4  The NSA provided a preliminary response Saturday that said Congress has "the same privacy protections as all U.S. persons."


Hey Congress you are just like regular folks, makes you all nervous doesn't it.

Welcome to the club.

Posted by: Fat Bob Bonaparte1564   2014-01-06 14:46  

#3  Should the senator ask that same question to Andrew Snowden I suspect a more complete answer would be replied.
Posted by: Airandee   2014-01-06 11:54  

#2  Probably only spies on Republicans and democrats.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles   2014-01-06 11:29  

#1  I'm not certain how any signal could be filtered out of this system.


Posted by: Besoeker   2014-01-06 09:13  

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