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Ukraine may have to go nuclear, says Kiev lawmaker
2014-03-11
[USATODAY] Ukraine may have to arm itself with nuclear weapons if the United States and other world powers refuse to enforce a security pact that obligates them to reverse the Moscow-backed takeover of Crimea, a member of the Ukraine parliament told USA TODAY.
They were nuclear when they disassociated themselves from the Soviet Union. Then they gave up nuclear weapons when the West promised to protect them from the big bad Bear. See how that worked out? That's why countries want nuclear weapons...
The United States, Great Britannia and Russia agreed in a pact "to assure Ukraine's territorial integrity" in return for Ukraine giving up a nuclear arsenal it inherited from the Soviet Union after declaring independence in 1991, said Pavlo Rizanenko, a member of the Ukrainian parliament.

"We gave up nuclear weapons because of this agreement," said Rizanenko, a member of the Udar Party headed by Vitali Klitschko, a candidate for president. "Now there's a strong sentiment in Ukraine that we made a big mistake."

His statements come as Russia raised the possibility it may send its troops beyond the Crimean peninsula on the Black Sea into the eastern half of Ukraine.

The Russian Foreign Ministry said lawlessness "now rules in eastern regions of Ukraine as a result of the actions of fighters of the so-called 'right sector' with the full connivance" of Ukraine's authorities.

Rizanenko and others in Ukraine say the pact it made with the United States under President Bill Clinton was supposed to prevent such Russian invasions.

The pact was made after the Soviet Union dissolved in 1991 and became Russia, leaving the newly independent nation of Ukraine as the world's third largest nuclear weapons power.

The communist dictatorship that was the Soviet Union had based nuclear missiles in republics it held captive along its border with Europe, and Ukraine had thousands. World powers urged Ukraine to give up the arsenal but its leaders balked, expressing fear they needed the weapons to deter Russia from trying to reverse Ukraine's independence.

To reassure the Ukrainians, the United States and leaders of the United Kingdom and Russia signed in 1994 the "Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances" in which the signatories promised that none of them would threaten or use force to alter the territorial integrity or political independence of Ukraine.
Posted by:Fred

#7  * Oh yeah, it is getting better in the Balck Sea Region, or "hotter" actually ... ...

To wit,

* TOPIX > UKRAINE SEEKS NATIONAL GUARD, CALLS UP RESERVES [+ Volunteers].

* BHARAT RAKSHAK > [Guardian.UK] UKRAINE PARLIAMENT DELIVERS ULTIMATUM TO CRIMEA ON [independence] REFERENDUM, CRIMEAN ASSEMBLY TO CALL OFF INDEPENDENCE REFERENDUM OF FACE DISSOLUTION AS US ATTEMPTS AT DIPLOMACY STALL.

Ironically, this action by Kiev does not necessarily go against my "Gitmo/Guantanamo" scenario for the Crimea.

versus

* RUSSIA TODAY > [Ria Novosti] CRIMEA DECLARES INDEPENDENCE FROM UKRAINE AHEAD OF REFERENDUM.

Ditto as per my post above.

* FYI DEFENCE.PK.FORUMS > CHINA [Xi Jinping] REBUFFS OBAMA'S PLAN FOR CRIMEA | THE DAILY CALLER.

* TOPIX, WORLD NEWS > UKRAINE: WE WILL NOT INTERVENE IN CRIMEA.

* VOICE OF RUSSIA > CRIMEA TO CHANGE NAME - PM KONSTANTINOV.

The former Autonomous Ukrainian Republic of Crimea plans to change its name to the Republic of Crimea.

versus

* VOICE OF RUSSIA > "IT WILL BEST FOR THE UKRAINE IFF THE US JUST STAYED OUT OF THE ARGUMENT" - FORMER US CONGRESSMAN [Ron Paul].

Sorry, Ron, as much as I like a number of your platforms this is NOT what overseas US Allies JAPAN + PHIL + SOKOR + TAIWAN + VIETNAM + INDIA + MUSLIM ALLIES want to hear.

Iff Putin, etal. criticizes the USA = POTUS Obama, it is the Bammer's job as an alleged anti-US, OWG Marxist-Anarchist-Globalist to accept + let him [them].

PCorrectly-Deniably like a good National-now-Global Politico, of course.

AS A OWG GLOBIE, THE BAMMER'S JOB IS TO SURRENDER LIKE FRANCE TO AMER'S RIVALS WID THE FULL APPLAUSE + SUPPORT OF THE AMERIKAN PEOPLE.

* SAME > UKRAINE MAY BECOME THE WORST RUSSIAN-US SHOWDOWN SINCE THE CUBAN CRISIS - EXPERT.
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2014-03-11 22:35  

#6  They think Vlad is gonna sit and watch while they ramp up a nuke program?

If they followed their former masters behavior, they would have cheated and kept a few around (see - Biological Treaty: Russia-US).
Posted by: Procopius2k   2014-03-11 15:32  

#5  Doesn't take much for a Sampson in the Temple option...
Posted by: Iblis   2014-03-11 13:33  

#4  So Ukraine is gonna fight a nuclear war against Russia? Riiiiiiight. They think Vlad is gonna sit and watch while they ramp up a nuke program? And who's gonna pay for it? Are they gonna borrow the money from Vlad, the EU or Obama?
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305   2014-03-11 11:56  

#3  I'm sure a lot of countries are thinking along the same lines.

The academics and other useful idiots in America for years have pushed for utopian unilateral nuclear disarmament without any understanding of the real world beyond their mantra of 'America's to blame'. They have no real understanding of how the human race has behaved for four thousand years - thus Kerry's 19th Century comment.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2014-03-11 08:51  

#2  It gets better every day.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2014-03-11 06:34  

#1  Meanwhile, not to be outdone by Nuke-wannabe Ukrainians ...

* JAPAN TIMES > [US-Japan] DEFENSE TALKS WID US LOOKING AT "GREY ZONE" CLASH SCENARIOS.

China.

ARTIC = Japan fears the day is coming [sooner than later?] when its ally the USA will no longer stand up or oppose China or China's interests.

versus

* GROONG > TURKEY MUST CHOOSE - EUROPE OR RUSSIA?

IMO TURKEY = UKRAINE = JAPAN + EAST ASIA vee USA right now.

* DEFENCE FORUM INDIA, BHARAT RAKSHAK > CHINA DEFENDS ITS TERRITORY CLAIMS, DEMANDS RESPECT - DAWN.COM.

Or else???

[ARETHA'S "R-E-S-P-E-C-T" here].

* CHINA DAILY FORUM > POSTER THREAD: CHINA NEEDS A LESSON FROM RUSSIA ON DEFENDING OVERSEAS ETHNIC CHINESE.

* TOPIX > CHINA'S UKRAINE PROBLEM.
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2014-03-11 03:32  

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