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Russia will see in time 'brute force' can't win: Obama
2014-03-27
[Al Ahram] US President Barack Obama
Jedi mind meld...
urged the West to remain united in its response to Moscow's takeover of Crimea, saying Wednesday that "with time" Russians will realise that "brute force" cannot win.

"With time, so long as we remain united, the Russian people will recognize that they cannot achieve security, prosperity and the status they seek through brute force.

"And that's why throughout this crisis we will combine our substantial pressure on Russia with an open door for diplomacy," Obama said in his only speech in a six-day tour of Europe.

Obama told a crowd of some 2,000 people massed in a concert-hall with Belgian's king and queen that Russia's actions had challenged "truths that only a few weeks ago seemed self-evident" -- that international law matters, that borders cannot be redrawn, that people must decide their own future.

Obama said that though the West was not directly affected by Russia's incursion "indifference would ignore the lessons that are written in the cemeteries of this continent".

Earlier in the day he toured the only World War I cemetery in Belgium to hold US graves.

"This is not another Cold War we're entering into," he said of the Ukraine crisis. "The United States and NATO
...the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. A collection of multinational and multilingual and multicultural armed forces, all of differing capabilities, working toward a common goal by pulling in different directions...
do not seek any conflict with Russia."

But he said that the transatlantic military alliance would uphold its "one-for-all" duty to defend each other's illusory sovereignty.

"And in that promise we will never waiver.

"NATO nations never stand alone," he added, saying that the alliance was patrolling the skies over the Baltics, and had reinforced its presence in Poland. "And we're prepared to do more."
Posted by:Fred

#18  Agreed, Dale.
Posted by: Barbara   2014-03-27 21:00  

#17  Of course if Obama looked at his map he would realize the 57th state Alaska is closer to Russia than merry ole England and so maybe we should care more about Russian aggression than NATO.

It will additionally be interesting when Russia stakes claim to all oil and natural gas under the North Pole and Obama is still scratching his a$$ over the keystone pipeline.
Posted by: Airandee   2014-03-27 19:09  

#16  There's a problem with your thinking, stating "Obama Thinks" is in error, he only "Feels" not "Thinks".
Posted by: Redneck Jim   2014-03-27 19:07  

#15  Obean thinks this is brute force?
Posted by: gorb   2014-03-27 15:31  

#14  re: #13 BINGO!
Posted by: Canuckistan sniper   2014-03-27 14:20  

#13  In my opinion Putin just has to sit back and wait. It will be handed to him. Obama like Wilson will not put up a fight. The EU needs Russia(they are so weak right now). We need Russia to get to our space station. The Russian people don't want war. Putin knows this. Growing his country without firing a shot will make him respected and stronger than ever. He always said he would reverse the losses and restore Russian prestige and power. I find it interesting the interest in southern areas of the world as with China. The Russians believe in a coming mini ice age(300 years). I believe this is a long range plan. Food production worldwide will be very important. Warm water ports also.
Posted by: Dale   2014-03-27 13:21  

#12  AlanC, no they don't. They think enough politicizing, whining and putting flowers in guns will overcome.

I look forward to the day these idiots get crushed under a Russian tank tread.
Posted by: DarthVader   2014-03-27 12:46  

#11  UP, ain't that the truth.

...do not seek any conflict with Russia."

Don't these a**brains realize that RUSSIA gets the final vote???
Posted by: AlanC   2014-03-27 12:39  

#10  ..that this fool never read "The Art of War" is supremely evident..
Posted by: Uncle Phester   2014-03-27 11:46  

#9  Amazing, a moron lecturing a grandmeister on brute force methods.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2014-03-27 11:46  

#8  ...they see five lights.

It comes from the bull they've been feed for a couple generations now from 'academia'.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2014-03-27 11:30  

#7  "truths that only a few weeks ago seemed self-evident"

Translation: OMG! Are we delusional or what?
Posted by: SteveS   2014-03-27 11:21  

#6  Amerikans may not seem to care because sovereign US territory is not involved The members of the permanent Democratic supermajority only care that their bennies keep coming in, not to mention they don't know what "sovereign" means.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418    2014-03-27 10:50  

#5  Yeah, look what happened to Ghengis Kahn, look what happened to Ceasar and Rome, look what happened to the British Empire, etc. etc. etc.

"With time...." yep, Russia will fold within the next 2 - 300 years.
Posted by: AlanC   2014-03-27 10:38  

#4  Russia will see in time 'brute force' can't win: Obama

Trayvon found that out when he was bashing someone's head into the pavement. "God made man, Sam Colt made them equal."
Posted by: Procopius2k   2014-03-27 08:48  

#3  I saw the Bammer's speech on CNN - methinks he had foolishly hired FLOTUS Michelle's fashion advisor to counsel him on foreign policy.

Ouch.
Posted by: trailing wife   2014-03-27 05:40  

#2  'But he said that the transatlantic military alliance would uphold its "one-for-all" duty to defend each other's sovereignty.'

The problem is that this statement is directly contradicted by the US' and NATO's reaction to 9/11.

NATO invoked article 5. NATO and the US went to war/conducted a military operation. NATO and the US lost, even when they absolutely couldn't afford to lose.

In response to an act of 'brute force' the West rewarded the attackers' associates. The US has shown that it doesn't care much about US sovereignty as the US' political class signaled its acceptance of an islamic Brezhnev doctrine.

American political discourse might not have perceived events this way, but the likes of Putin do recognize finlandization when they see it.
Posted by: Elmerert Hupens2660   2014-03-27 03:03  

#1  See BHARAT RAKSHAK > [Independent.UK] UKRAINE CRISIS: RUSSIA IS A "REGIONAL POWER", AMERICA IS THE MOST POWERFUL NATION IN THE WORLD,SAYS BARACK OBAMA INW ARNING TO VLADIMIR PUTIN.

* RELATED CHINESE MILITARY FORUM > RUSSIA WEAK, US STRONG DCLARED OBAMA | [The Wire] OBAMA: NO, ROMNEY WAS WRONG, RUSSIA IS WEAK, NOT STRONG.

I saw the Bammer's speech on CNN - methinks he had foolishly hired FLOTUS Michelle's fashion advisor to counsel him on foreign policy. IMO HE WAS EFFEC DARING VLAD = RUSSIA TO MILITARILY DO SOMETHING = GO BEYOND WHAT VLAD HAS ALREADY DONE VEE TAKING OVER THE CRIMEA FROM UKRAINE.

versus

* TOPIX > [Bloomberg] OBAMA CALLS RUSSIA MOVES A CHALLENGE TO GLOBAL ORDER.

Sniff, sniff, came up wid that all by himself did he???

NATIONALIST-VS-GLOBALIST WORLD ORDER.

What part of "POTUS OBAMA IS A LOUSY PRO-US NATIONALIST BUT ONE HELLUVA OUTSTANDING ANTI-US GLOBALIST" DID WE NOT UNDERSTAND???

* SAME > [Reuters] OBAMA: RUSSIA WILL NOT BE PUSHED OUT OF CRIMEA BY MILITARY MEANS.

Ditto as per China in East Asia + Pacific, e.g. GUAM-WESTPAC? HAWAII?

Americans = Amerikans may not seem to care because sovereign US territory is not involved, i.e. THE CRIME OR EAST, SOUTH CHINA SEAS IS NOT GUAM, HAWAII, OR 1/2-PLUS OF CONUS-NORAM.

[FEMA BULK PUCHASE OF HOLLOW-POINT BULLETS here].

* BHARAT RAKSHAK > [The Hindu] US DEFENSE SECRETARY [Chuck Hagel] SAYS RUSSIA SHOULD GUARANTEE WILL NOT INVADE UKRAINE.

* SAME > RUSSIA TODAY VIDEO: THE NETHERLANDS: OBAMA SAYS THE US GENERALLY DOESN'T HAVE TO INVADE NEIGHBORS IN ORDER TO INFLUENCE THEM.
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2014-03-27 01:40  

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