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China-Japan-Koreas
Former General: China Will not Go to War for N. Korea
2014-12-03
[AnNahar] China will not step in to save neighboring North Korea if the Pyongyang regime collapses or starts a war, a retired People's Liberation Army general said, possibly signalling waning patience in Beijing with its wayward, nuclear-armed ally.

"China is not a savior," Wang Hongguang, formerly deputy commander of the Nanjing military region, wrote in the Global Times newspaper, which is close to the Chinese Communist Party.

"Should North Korea really collapse, not even China can save it," he said.
Instead, China and South Korea should carve it up...
Wang's comments came in a contribution to the nationalist tabloid's Chinese-language website.

The outspoken Wang has made critical comments about North Korea before and it was not clear whether his words indicated a policy shift regarding Pyongyang.

China has long been the isolated North's key ally and aid provider. Beijing came to the fledgling country's aid during the 1950-53 Korean War, when its intervention against U.S.-led United Nations
...an organization originally established to war on dictatorships which was promptly infiltrated by dictatorships and is now held in thrall to dictatorships...
forces defending South Korea helped seal an eventual stalemate that has lasted to this day.

China's role has grown as the North's economy has shrunk in the wake of the collapse of the Soviet Union almost a quarter of a century ago, with which Pyongyang had close trade and aid ties.

But over the same period Beijing has moved to develop diplomatic relations and booming trade ties with Seoul, Pyongyang's bitter rival. Chinese President Xi Jinping and South Korean President Park Geun-Hye have exchanged visits, while Xi and North Korean leader Kim Jong-Un have so far kept their distance.

Wang said China would not get involved in any new war on the Korean peninsula.

"China cannot influence the situation on the Korean peninsula," he wrote.

"China has no need to light a fire and get burnt," he added. "Whoever provokes a conflagration bears responsibility.

"Now there is no more 'socialist camp'. It is not necessary for China's younger generation to fight a war for another country," he wrote in the comments, published Monday.
Too bad you don't think of Taiwan the same way...
Wang criticized the North for its nuclear development, using it as an example of how its interests can differ from China's and saying it had "already brought about the serious threat of nuclear contamination in China's border area".

But he also slammed Western countries for what he described as "demonizing" North Korea and interfering in its internal affairs in the name of human rights
One man's rights are another man's existential threat.
.

"China absolutely does not meddle," he wrote.

Beijing will "support what should be supported and oppose what should be opposed" regarding the North, he said, indicating China was not ready to completely give up on its troublesome neighbor.

China will neither "court" nor "abandon" North Korea, he wrote. "This should be China's basic attitude."
Neither court nor abandon -- but maybe 'incorporate'?
Posted by:trailing wife

#9  The outspoken Wang
Is that subtly calling him 'a blunt instrument'?
Posted by: Skidmark   2014-12-03 21:20  

#8  Or maybe the message is just "STOP SPENDING ALL YOUR ALLOWANCE IN ONE PLACE."
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain   2014-12-03 18:51  

#7  "China supports norks with oil so they keep kimmie's regime alive."

China frequently uses generals and other expendable folk to make announcements they could officially distance themselves from. Could this be a warning that perhaps the oil will be stopping and don't expect China to clean up the mess.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2014-12-03 14:34  

#6  @#1: Even iff Taiwan is successfully acquired, China will demand a much-reduced or no US Mil Presence in the Koreas, Japan, + NE Asia region.

If Mr. Obama and troupe have their way, it will be done, done and done.
Posted by: Tholung Noodleman4539   2014-12-03 13:22  

#5  China supports norks with oil so they keep kimmie's regime alive.
Posted by: Alaska Paul   2014-12-03 10:09  

#4  - but maybe 'incorporate'?

I believe the old technical term was vassal state. Rename Rebrand it Balhae. The earliest extant recorded mention of Balhae come from the Old Book of Tang, which was compiled between 941 to 945. See, linkage back to the Tang Dynasty. Extra good claim on Soviet Russian far east territory.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2014-12-03 09:07  

#3  That is good Joe!
Posted by: JohnQC   2014-12-03 06:55  

#2  Damn now JOE! Excellent read.
Posted by: Shipman   2014-12-03 06:15  

#1  First off, China already has sizable potent PLA forces or MilAssets in NOKOR, ostensib to "support" the Kim Family Regime.

Second, theres no way in hell that China will allow any de facto collapsed NOKOR state to exist such that an anti-China SOKOR or US-led International Coalition will take over the reins of post-collapse NOKOR governance.

Bear in mind that whomever controls or dominates NOKOR or the TWO KOREAS also controls the coasts of mainland China from KOREAS-TAIWAN to HAINAN ISLAND + NORTHERN PHILIPINE OPERAT AREAS.

Third, as said time before China wants TAIWAN, i.e. China's equivalent of what Pearl Harbor + Norfolk CENTCOMS, etc, are to the USDOD-Navy - Beijing is unlikely to accept any form of formal Inter-Korean Unification unless China gets Taiwan back first PERMANENTLY. Even iff Taiwan is successfully acquired, China will demand a much-reduced or no US Mil Presence in the Koreas, Japan, + NE Asia region.

Fourth, there is the longstanding RUSSIA FACTOR = MURPHY'S LAW. China will go to war over NOKOR iff it believes Russia, etal. [Nippon?] will attempt to take it over.

The above being said, IMO the likelihood of a Sino-Japanese war over NE Asia strategic access for the PLA + Chinese geopol security is increasing almost every day.

* FYI CHINESE MILITARY FORUM > JAPAN INCREASINGLY WARY OF CHINA'S ECONOMIC AND MILITARY HEFT. SHINZO ABE AND XI JINPING MEETING ON ISLANDS DISPUTE DOES LITTLE TO THAW RELATIONS.

Both China + Japan see themselves as Asia's or East Asia's #1.

["HIGHLANDER" Movie = "There can Only be One"! here].

* BHARAT RAKSHAK > [The Hindu] CHINA MAY BE ADDING [Aircraft] CARRIER MIGHT [=, > 3 CVS + Liaoning] TO MEET REGIONAL THREATS, espec in response to POTUS Obama's "Asia Pivot".

* YAHOO NEWS > [AFP] CHINA VOWS TO PROTECT TERRITORIAL INTERESTS.

Artic read, THE SOUTH CHINA SEA IS THEIRS.

* SAME > CHINA'S CHALLENGE TO THE GLOBAL ORDER [OWG-NWO]: TAKING THE "CAREFUL" APPROACH.

Wid more than a little help from Anti-US US Globalist POTUS Obama, OWG Globies, + Obama's "Red Lines".

OWG GLOBALISM = NOT "PEACE THRU STRENGTH" OR "TRUST, BUT VERIFY", BUT "RETREAT IS PEACE" + "SURRENDERING LIKE VICHY FRANCE IS A WAY OF LIFE, NOT JUST ANOTHER VERY PURDY WORD".
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2014-12-03 01:21  

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